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Does not seems stable, when all Java based applications are crashing.

• zimpenfish 3y ago
  > when all Java based applications are crashing That probably needs to be qualified with "Oracle JVM Java applications" because I've had many hours of running Minecraft on macOS 14.4 under Zulu's JVM (a pre-14.4 release which means it doesn't have any workarounds) without any issues.
  • vbezhenar 3y ago
    Almost all Java builds including Zulu are made from the same OpenJDK code base. The fact that you didn't experience crashes does not tell anything. May be you were lucky or this particular bug was not manifesting for this particular application.
    • zimpenfish 3y ago
      > or this particular bug was not manifesting for this particular application. "all Java based applications are crashing" is a false statement either way.
• chaostheory 3y ago
  Only Java is unstable because it’s not following Apple’s rules. Everything else, including the apps that follow the rules, are stable. That’s how it’s always been for the Apple ecosystem.
  • Reason077 3y ago
    Java is not breaking any rules. macOS has memory management provisions for JITs and virtual machines just like every other OS. SIGSEGV has been part of Unix for decades and works perfectly fine on other OSes. And still works "most of the time" on macOS. Apple broke something here, and I'm sure they will fix it pretty soon.