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I have a similar reaction when somebody rediscovers something that specialists all know by default However, the older I get the more I appreciate these folks b
by AndrewKemendo 3y ago
I have a similar reaction when somebody rediscovers something that specialists all know by default
However, the older I get the more I appreciate these folks because they are excited about the problem usually way more than people who know the systems rote
In some cases you get a charlatan trying to recycle something, not open to feedback that they aren’t Kepler or whatever, but in my experience most of these folks are trying to figure the world out and are excited when something seems to fit
Now, I try (not always successful) to “yes and” them into trying to figure out how their method compares to existing methods, with the idea that - hey maybe they figured out an edge case by accident that we can all learn from
That said, this is geohot and he definitely isn’t new to BC/IL
- randomsolutions 3y agoYea, I don't see the problem with someone rediscovering knowledge. The question I would ask is, would geohot have been better to have gone to school to learn this and deferred all the work he has done? Who is farther ahead, the people who already knew this from school, or the guy who is building and learning this as he goes?
- AndrewKemendo 3y ago100% the person building and learning as they go A PhD in ML is worth less to me than day to day operational product engineering experience utilizing the fast changing ML tooling landscape
- polygamous_bat 3y ago> A PhD in ML is worth less to me than day to day operational product engineering experience utilizing the fast changing ML tooling landscape This is how you get a four-week transition from "I can fix twitter search in an internship!" to "twitter search is unfixable." Ideally, a PhD teaches you to bust your behind doing a deep dive on a seemingly unsolvable problem for three-five years. If only we could recalibrate ourselves to stop the search for easy money and remind ourselves that some problems are just genuinely hard.
- AndrewKemendo 3y agoI mean I’m talking generally not about him specifically The best senior engineers on the planet have a BS and 30 years experience
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- colesantiago 3y agoUnfortunately 'senior engineers' who have 30+ years of experience in the valley and other places are past their prime in SV by most top tech companies as engineers. They are expected to be in management roles.
- eddd-ddde 3y agoI think both is good, people thrive on diversity, if everyone was taught exactly the same they would think the same. Without some people with different experiences we would certainly miss on some creations.
- polygamous_bat 3y ago> would geohot have been better to have gone to school to learn this and deferred all the work he has done? Could you remind me what he has done since his jailbreaking day, i.e. in the last ten years, that can't be described as "setting VC money on fire?" Because my opinion would be, that yes, the world would have been better off if he did go to school.
- georgehotz 3y agoWe have a product for sale: https://comma.ai https://comma.ai We raised $18.1M and have made $28M in revenue to date. Where are you getting your narrative? Are you confusing comma with someone else?
- lll-o-lll 3y agoObviously school puts you further ahead. Human development is based on writing, teaching, and then expanding from there. The entire point of having a structured approach to teaching (and this includes apprenticeships and the like), is to accelerate the process of learning.