You said this: > Nobody wants to steal your stuff if they can have what you have anyway. That is blatantly false. People don't steal cars since they want cars

You said this: > Nobody wants to steal your stuff if they can have what you have anyway. That is blatantly false. People don't steal cars since they want cars, they steal cars to sell them. They step on others to get ahead, usually those poorer than themselves. Your comment doesn't make any sense in this thread. Why are you talking about Canada or ideals? You can't eliminate poverty without eliminating crime, since crime causes poverty, people steal a workers car now he is poor since he spent so much to get it, the car is usually the most valuable thing a person has.