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Every company stopped caring, especially the companies who were at the forefront of standards and good web design practices, like Google and Apple. Google rece

Every company stopped caring, especially the companies who were at the forefront of standards and good web design practices, like Google and Apple. Google recently retired their HTML Gmail version, mind you, it still worked on a 2008 256MO RAM Android phone with an old Firefox version and it was simply fast... of course the new JS bloated version doesn't, it just kills the browser. That's an extreme example, yet low budget Phones have 2GB of RAM, you simply cannot browser the web with these and expect reasonable performances anymore. Mobile web sucks, an it's done on purpose, to push people to use "native" apps which makes things easier when it comes to data collection and ad display for companies such as Apple and Google.

lukan 3y ago
"Mobile web sucks, an it's done on purpose, to push people to use "native" apps which makes things easier when it comes to data collection and ad display for companies such as Apple and Google." Partly for sure, but Amazon for example? Or Decathlon? (a big sports/outdoor chain in europe) Their sites are just horrible on a mobile (or in Decathlons case also on a Desktop, that is not high end), but they also don't offer me their app in plain view, so I have to assume it is just incompetence. The devs only testing everything on their high end devices connected to a backbone.
- Nextgrid 3y ago
  > but Amazon for example? Or Decathlon? (a big sports/outdoor chain in europe) Pretty much every company out there employs oxygen wasters who need "engagement" to justify their promotions/salaries. They don't care whether said "engagement" translates to actual profit. If bloating the page or adding some annoying cookie banner allows them to come up with some random number that goes up (no matter whether the measurement is even correct) they'll happily take that opportunity even if would cause actual profits to go down.
spintin 3y ago
Yes, on Thursday Google ended their only viable "product". RIP Google. The new Reddit is unusable, and the old is well too old. Twitch is borderline usable, with chat and video stream problems... The list is long... All changes are bad when you have the final formula because they are job security. Eventually the monkeys on this ball of dirt will realize that jobs and money don't exist, but then it will be to late... oh that is now! RIP Humans.
- _kwef 3y ago
  > the old is well too old What's wrong with the old Reddit UI?
  - spintin 3y ago
    It has usability problems with f.ex. collapsing a comment tree. I returned to it last major reskin too but then they fixed the new to become usable. Now they removed the middle version... they should have made recent.reddit.com for those that want to wait until new.reddit.com doesn't suck as much.

lukan 3y ago

"Mobile web sucks, an it's done on purpose, to push people to use "native" apps which makes things easier when it comes to data collection and ad display for companies such as Apple and Google." Partly for sure, but Amazon for example? Or Decathlon? (a big sports/outdoor chain in europe) Their sites are just horrible on a mobile (or in Decathlons case also on a Desktop, that is not high end), but they also don't offer me their app in plain view, so I have to assume it is just incompetence. The devs only testing everything on their high end devices connected to a backbone.

Nextgrid 3y ago
> but Amazon for example? Or Decathlon? (a big sports/outdoor chain in europe) Pretty much every company out there employs oxygen wasters who need "engagement" to justify their promotions/salaries. They don't care whether said "engagement" translates to actual profit. If bloating the page or adding some annoying cookie banner allows them to come up with some random number that goes up (no matter whether the measurement is even correct) they'll happily take that opportunity even if would cause actual profits to go down.

spintin 3y ago

Yes, on Thursday Google ended their only viable "product". RIP Google. The new Reddit is unusable, and the old is well too old. Twitch is borderline usable, with chat and video stream problems... The list is long... All changes are bad when you have the final formula because they are job security. Eventually the monkeys on this ball of dirt will realize that jobs and money don't exist, but then it will be to late... oh that is now! RIP Humans.

_kwef 3y ago
> the old is well too old What's wrong with the old Reddit UI?
- spintin 3y ago
  It has usability problems with f.ex. collapsing a comment tree. I returned to it last major reskin too but then they fixed the new to become usable. Now they removed the middle version... they should have made recent.reddit.com for those that want to wait until new.reddit.com doesn't suck as much.