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Business news especially start up news has always been here. I'd like to make a wider point that tech workers should embrace business and the understanding of h

Business news especially start up news has always been here. I'd like to make a wider point that tech workers should embrace business and the understanding of how business works and make it a central part of their worldview, it is essentially the technology of civilization. Otherwise you abdicate leadership to the exact type of people that make a lot of other people rightly irritated or downright spiteful at the business side of tech in the first place. It doesn't actually have to be so bad.

solardev 3y ago
It's a fair point, but I actually wish we had a hacker community like this without the business/startup side at all. It's just not that interesting to me. As for abdicating leadership, I don't know that simply following in their footsteps is going to make better organizations either. That's just "if you can't beat em, join em" thinking... but that's a separate discussion, I suppose.
- simonw 3y ago
  "I actually wish we had a hacker community like this without the business/startup side at all" Sounds like you want https://lobste.rs https://lobste.rs
  - solardev 3y ago
    What's that? Is it invite-only (and why)...?
    - lukan 3y ago
      Invite only, yes. Probably because so it stays the way it is and they do not want to discuss all their style again and again and again.
    - mcint 3y ago
      https://lobste.rs/about#invitations https://lobste.rs/about#invitations Invites push people to exercise discretion, and not pollute the commons. Send me an email, solardev, if you want an invite.
      - solardev 3y ago
        Hey mcint, I appreciate it, but I don't think I trust myself to be well-behaved enough for an invite-only community, lol. I can barely stay within the rules here :) Thanks, though!
- ghufran_syed 3y ago
  as a hacker, couldn’t you write a browser plug-in to filter out the subjects you don’t want to see?
  - solardev 3y ago
    Well, I can just skip the topics I'm not interested in. It's just that there's a pretty clear bias here for startup-capitalist mentality (which is fine, just not really for me), and it's harder to find people discuss the things that challenge that status quo system (politics, socialism, tech coops, etc.). I think the moderators here do a great job, but at the end of the day it's still a service of YCombinator, and that draws a certain crowd. I prefer to gently step away from the financial side of that Venn diagram, personally, but there are also many people here who come here specifically FOR that, which I have no problem with. I just miss the old Slashdot, probably, with high-quality tech discussions but less of an emphasis on the business side of things and the startup hustle culture.

solardev 3y ago

It's a fair point, but I actually wish we had a hacker community like this without the business/startup side at all. It's just not that interesting to me. As for abdicating leadership, I don't know that simply following in their footsteps is going to make better organizations either. That's just "if you can't beat em, join em" thinking... but that's a separate discussion, I suppose.

simonw 3y ago
"I actually wish we had a hacker community like this without the business/startup side at all" Sounds like you want https://lobste.rs https://lobste.rs
- solardev 3y ago
  What's that? Is it invite-only (and why)...?
  - lukan 3y ago
    Invite only, yes. Probably because so it stays the way it is and they do not want to discuss all their style again and again and again.
  - mcint 3y ago
    https://lobste.rs/about#invitations https://lobste.rs/about#invitations Invites push people to exercise discretion, and not pollute the commons. Send me an email, solardev, if you want an invite.
    - solardev 3y ago
      Hey mcint, I appreciate it, but I don't think I trust myself to be well-behaved enough for an invite-only community, lol. I can barely stay within the rules here :) Thanks, though!
ghufran_syed 3y ago
as a hacker, couldn’t you write a browser plug-in to filter out the subjects you don’t want to see?
- solardev 3y ago
  Well, I can just skip the topics I'm not interested in. It's just that there's a pretty clear bias here for startup-capitalist mentality (which is fine, just not really for me), and it's harder to find people discuss the things that challenge that status quo system (politics, socialism, tech coops, etc.). I think the moderators here do a great job, but at the end of the day it's still a service of YCombinator, and that draws a certain crowd. I prefer to gently step away from the financial side of that Venn diagram, personally, but there are also many people here who come here specifically FOR that, which I have no problem with. I just miss the old Slashdot, probably, with high-quality tech discussions but less of an emphasis on the business side of things and the startup hustle culture.