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> Mobil BankID are so widely used, while BankID on a computer is not. Because it is convenient, but you are not forced to use Mobilt BankID because pretty much

by KomoD 3y ago

> Mobil BankID are so widely used, while BankID on a computer is not. Because it is convenient, but you are not forced to use Mobilt BankID because pretty much every service will still work with desktop bankid or the physical device (säkerhetsdosa) your bank gives you. > However, BankID says they do not support /e/, and even if it works now, they say all risk is on me if does not work in the future. That is not a risk I want to take. I figure it's easier stay with what I know works than to backtrack in the future. Yes, not officially supported, but if it's just Android it will most likely work just fine. If you moved here from another country then I can certainly say you picked the wrong country, everything is digital, there is no "privacy", and as you said cash is disappearing rapidly. Personally I quite like the bankid and swish system, it just makes my life so much easier.

dalke 3y ago
> pretty much every service will still work with desktop bankid or the physical device (säkerhetsdosa) your bank gives you When I applied for citizenship for my kids, it did not work for me to sign the form that my wife filled in. I got a letter a few days ago saying Swedbank was going to stop using paper for pension information and switch to digital. The site they gave only supports Mobil BankID. (They say they will add BankID på fil at some point.) I have tried to order things online which only support Mobil BankID, not BankID på fil. > if it's just Android it will most likely work just fine. That is a technical workaround to what requires a political solution. As BankID cranks up the security level, they are likely to prohibit alternative solutions unless required to by law, in the name of security, but also because it's easier. > I can certainly say you picked the wrong country Oh? Which country is better? What surprised me is the willingness to let a US company become the gatekeeper to daily life. The government should demand more oversight and more restrictions on what Google and Apple are allowed to do, as a matter of sovereignty, as both countries have proven averse to following EU regulations. I like Bank-Id and Swish too. I want to use them. I don't like the ToS I am required to agree to in order to use them, and I think the government could and should fix that.
- KomoD 3y ago
  > I got a letter a few days ago saying Swedbank was going to stop using paper for pension information and switch to digital. The site they gave only supports Mobil BankID. (They say they will add BankID på fil at some point.) Ugh, typical Swedbank. Easily the worst bank in Sweden in my opinion...
  - dalke 3y ago
    When I moved here was during a point when it was hard for a new immigrant to get an id unless vouched for. Banks could issue id then. My friends had a Swedbank account, so I was able to get set up with them. What is the best bank in Sweden? I guess I should say, what is the best one with an office in Trollhättan? Also, I live above the Swedbank. In the worst case scenario I can easily (with some wait time, because Swedbank) do my banking in person.
    - KomoD 3y ago
      > My friends had a Swedbank account, so I was able to get set up with them. Totally understandable > What is the best bank in Sweden? I guess I should say, what is the best one with an office in Trollhättan? Sadly don't have any personal recommendations as I also use Swedbank and do not live in Trollhättan, though I see a lot of people who like Handelsbanken or Skandia. > Also, I live above the Swedbank. That sounds really convenient, don't know about your office but mine is such a nightmare, only open 3 days a week 9am-12pm!
      - dalke 3y ago
        Open every weekday, so better than that, but still "banker's hours", and understaffed enough so there is often a queue.
tripflag 3y ago
> Yes, not officially supported, but if it's just Android it will most likely work just fine. I have had zero issues with Norwegian banking apps on my Pixel running GrapheneOS, so I'm inclined to believe OP would be fine with such a setup, if that is sufficiently de-googled in their opinion. A question to OP: Does Sweden not give the option to use BankID-based services with a separate OTP device, instead of having it provided by your SIM? This was the default in Norway until recently, and is still an option over here. EDIT: Oh I see the neighboring comment from OP mostly answered this already.

by KomoD 3y ago

dalke 3y ago

> pretty much every service will still work with desktop bankid or the physical device (säkerhetsdosa) your bank gives you When I applied for citizenship for my kids, it did not work for me to sign the form that my wife filled in. I got a letter a few days ago saying Swedbank was going to stop using paper for pension information and switch to digital. The site they gave only supports Mobil BankID. (They say they will add BankID på fil at some point.) I have tried to order things online which only support Mobil BankID, not BankID på fil. > if it's just Android it will most likely work just fine. That is a technical workaround to what requires a political solution. As BankID cranks up the security level, they are likely to prohibit alternative solutions unless required to by law, in the name of security, but also because it's easier. > I can certainly say you picked the wrong country Oh? Which country is better? What surprised me is the willingness to let a US company become the gatekeeper to daily life. The government should demand more oversight and more restrictions on what Google and Apple are allowed to do, as a matter of sovereignty, as both countries have proven averse to following EU regulations. I like Bank-Id and Swish too. I want to use them. I don't like the ToS I am required to agree to in order to use them, and I think the government could and should fix that.

KomoD 3y ago
> I got a letter a few days ago saying Swedbank was going to stop using paper for pension information and switch to digital. The site they gave only supports Mobil BankID. (They say they will add BankID på fil at some point.) Ugh, typical Swedbank. Easily the worst bank in Sweden in my opinion...
- dalke 3y ago
  When I moved here was during a point when it was hard for a new immigrant to get an id unless vouched for. Banks could issue id then. My friends had a Swedbank account, so I was able to get set up with them. What is the best bank in Sweden? I guess I should say, what is the best one with an office in Trollhättan? Also, I live above the Swedbank. In the worst case scenario I can easily (with some wait time, because Swedbank) do my banking in person.
  - KomoD 3y ago
    > My friends had a Swedbank account, so I was able to get set up with them. Totally understandable > What is the best bank in Sweden? I guess I should say, what is the best one with an office in Trollhättan? Sadly don't have any personal recommendations as I also use Swedbank and do not live in Trollhättan, though I see a lot of people who like Handelsbanken or Skandia. > Also, I live above the Swedbank. That sounds really convenient, don't know about your office but mine is such a nightmare, only open 3 days a week 9am-12pm!
    - dalke 3y ago
      Open every weekday, so better than that, but still "banker's hours", and understaffed enough so there is often a queue.

tripflag 3y ago

> Yes, not officially supported, but if it's just Android it will most likely work just fine. I have had zero issues with Norwegian banking apps on my Pixel running GrapheneOS, so I'm inclined to believe OP would be fine with such a setup, if that is sufficiently de-googled in their opinion. A question to OP: Does Sweden not give the option to use BankID-based services with a separate OTP device, instead of having it provided by your SIM? This was the default in Norway until recently, and is still an option over here. EDIT: Oh I see the neighboring comment from OP mostly answered this already.