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Can you provide some examples then?

by edude03 3y ago

bongobingo1 3y ago
Broadly auto-picking the correct language and currency? Populating from a regional feed for news or alerts?
- michaelt 3y ago
  That's usually done with IP geolocation, which can be done without a user consent popup. If you don't see [1] then the site hasn't used the browser's location API. [1] https://assets-prod.sumo.prod.webservices.mozgcp.net/media/uploads/images/2018-10-17-17-35-58-086f5b.png https://assets-prod.sumo.prod.webservices.mozgcp.net/media/u...
- extraduder_ire 3y ago
  Picking language using geolocation is kind of dumb, I hate when google does it and I have to put "&hl=en"into the URL somewhere, often twice before it'll stick. Did everyone forget there's a standard for this? e.g. my browser sent a "Accept-Language en-US,en;q=0.5" header when it loaded this page.
- cqqxo4zV46cp 3y ago
  I can not recall experiencing a single instance of the geolocation API being used for either of these things.
  - zaat 3y ago
    Perhaps you should travel more? Try using a browser on cloud VMs in different regions, Google, Bing and Amazon will be happy to serve you their services in the language that indeed relevant to their local employees who are busy maintaining the infrastructure running your VM.
    - kalleboo 3y ago
      They use IP location for that since the geolocation API requires permission. Google does ask for it on mobile for hyperlocal results but it will still localize the services using IP otherwise
- zaat 3y ago
  It's impossible to infer the right language using geolocation information, and in many locations the chance of correctly guessing the native language of a user is extremely small. Some services, Google for example, ignore this simple fact and as a consequence force major inferior experience and usability. Many people waste considerable amount of time to fix the issues caused by that, with varying degree of success. The solutions usually have limited lifetime, due to changes in the services. So much needless pain.
- madeofpalk 3y ago
  I’ve never seen location, which requires a permission prompt, used to guess language.
  - sneak 3y ago
    Every time you power on a brand new Mac or iPhone it does this, though I think it is from the Wi-Fi country code (are those in beacon packets)? iPads with mobile chips definitely do this, even prior to the user setting up their own service.
thayne 3y ago
Finding the nearest location of a store or restaurant.
Sayrus 3y ago
Some laptops use-cases I've seen: - red shift at night: if you move around countries, you don't want to reconfigure or use IP location. Having location from WiFi allows this. - Weather application without picking a city or using GPS - Night/Day wallpapers

Can you provide some examples then?

bongobingo1 3y ago

Broadly auto-picking the correct language and currency? Populating from a regional feed for news or alerts?

michaelt 3y ago
That's usually done with IP geolocation, which can be done without a user consent popup. If you don't see [1] then the site hasn't used the browser's location API. [1] https://assets-prod.sumo.prod.webservices.mozgcp.net/media/uploads/images/2018-10-17-17-35-58-086f5b.png https://assets-prod.sumo.prod.webservices.mozgcp.net/media/u...
extraduder_ire 3y ago
Picking language using geolocation is kind of dumb, I hate when google does it and I have to put "&hl=en"into the URL somewhere, often twice before it'll stick. Did everyone forget there's a standard for this? e.g. my browser sent a "Accept-Language en-US,en;q=0.5" header when it loaded this page.
cqqxo4zV46cp 3y ago
I can not recall experiencing a single instance of the geolocation API being used for either of these things.
- zaat 3y ago
  Perhaps you should travel more? Try using a browser on cloud VMs in different regions, Google, Bing and Amazon will be happy to serve you their services in the language that indeed relevant to their local employees who are busy maintaining the infrastructure running your VM.
  - kalleboo 3y ago
    They use IP location for that since the geolocation API requires permission. Google does ask for it on mobile for hyperlocal results but it will still localize the services using IP otherwise
zaat 3y ago
It's impossible to infer the right language using geolocation information, and in many locations the chance of correctly guessing the native language of a user is extremely small. Some services, Google for example, ignore this simple fact and as a consequence force major inferior experience and usability. Many people waste considerable amount of time to fix the issues caused by that, with varying degree of success. The solutions usually have limited lifetime, due to changes in the services. So much needless pain.
madeofpalk 3y ago
I’ve never seen location, which requires a permission prompt, used to guess language.
- sneak 3y ago
  Every time you power on a brand new Mac or iPhone it does this, though I think it is from the Wi-Fi country code (are those in beacon packets)? iPads with mobile chips definitely do this, even prior to the user setting up their own service.

thayne 3y ago

Finding the nearest location of a store or restaurant.

Sayrus 3y ago

Some laptops use-cases I've seen: - red shift at night: if you move around countries, you don't want to reconfigure or use IP location. Having location from WiFi allows this. - Weather application without picking a city or using GPS - Night/Day wallpapers