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The root problem is that somebody is entering your house and stealing your car Modulo stray bullets, shooting does in fact seem to address this

bmer 3y ago
The root problem is a lack of imagination that cannot fathom how the person making the judgement might find themselves in the position of the judged, in the not-so-far-future. The good news is that reality does not care whether or not you lack imagination. One can only marvel then, at the sequence of events that lead to the "unthinkable".
derelicta 3y ago
Fun fact: ppl act the way they do for a reason. In the industry we love using the 5 whys to get to the bottom of an issue. I just wish folks would apply the same to their daily life. 1) Why did this man steal your car? > Because he's poor. 2) Why is this man poor? > Because his previous job paid too little. 3) Why did his previous job pay so little? > Because he can only accept terms of a contract, try to find a better contract, or face homelessness 4) Why does he have to make that terrible choice? > Because there is a power disparity between the employer and the employee 5) Why is there a power disparity between the employer and the employee? > Because employees, despite being the real wealth creators, do not have any oversight and democratic control over their workplace. A society that rewards theft will breed thieves. The alpha thief being the capitalist. Thats why "the west is falling"; it's only sowing the seeds of its destruction.
- DecoySalamander 3y ago
  > Why did this man steal your car? > Because he's poor. That's a very simplistic line of reasoning. People who aren't as well off as you aren't automatons without agency, driven by their base desires. This is proven by the people without cushy IT jobs you meet every day who don't choose to rob you every chance they get.
  - derelicta 3y ago
    And yet the worse material conditions within a country are, the more it is filled with criminals. Naturally, desperate ppl act in desperate ways. In Republics where there is a valid class compromise, or where there is class domination by the working class, you don't see all those violent issues.
deprecative 3y ago
It's fascinating how people who appear to be so smart are so very confused by systemic causes of criminality. The bullet is a bandage. It does not cure the illness. And even then murder for something so insignificant is beyond reprehensible.
- philbin 3y ago
  deprecative sez >" The bullet is a bandage. It does not cure the illness. "< Bullet as bandage is a poor metaphor! And a bullet usually slows/halts an attacker, which is all a defender requires. deprecative sez >" murder for something so insignificant is beyond reprehensible."< I think you misspeak: murder is always illegal but killing a person may be legal. You may be killed for property crimes in some states.
ryandrake 3y ago
I think the thrust of the article (and many of the comments) is that there are other ways to address the problem that don’t involve loss of life. Some are individual/preventative and others are society-wide and difficult to do overnight. Whenever you have a home invasion article, inevitably the “Internet Rambos” come out of the woodwork with their “simple” solution to a complex problem.
- archagon 3y ago
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bmer 3y ago

The root problem is a lack of imagination that cannot fathom how the person making the judgement might find themselves in the position of the judged, in the not-so-far-future. The good news is that reality does not care whether or not you lack imagination. One can only marvel then, at the sequence of events that lead to the "unthinkable".

derelicta 3y ago

Fun fact: ppl act the way they do for a reason. In the industry we love using the 5 whys to get to the bottom of an issue. I just wish folks would apply the same to their daily life. 1) Why did this man steal your car? > Because he's poor. 2) Why is this man poor? > Because his previous job paid too little. 3) Why did his previous job pay so little? > Because he can only accept terms of a contract, try to find a better contract, or face homelessness 4) Why does he have to make that terrible choice? > Because there is a power disparity between the employer and the employee 5) Why is there a power disparity between the employer and the employee? > Because employees, despite being the real wealth creators, do not have any oversight and democratic control over their workplace. A society that rewards theft will breed thieves. The alpha thief being the capitalist. Thats why "the west is falling"; it's only sowing the seeds of its destruction.

DecoySalamander 3y ago
> Why did this man steal your car? > Because he's poor. That's a very simplistic line of reasoning. People who aren't as well off as you aren't automatons without agency, driven by their base desires. This is proven by the people without cushy IT jobs you meet every day who don't choose to rob you every chance they get.
- derelicta 3y ago
  And yet the worse material conditions within a country are, the more it is filled with criminals. Naturally, desperate ppl act in desperate ways. In Republics where there is a valid class compromise, or where there is class domination by the working class, you don't see all those violent issues.

deprecative 3y ago

It's fascinating how people who appear to be so smart are so very confused by systemic causes of criminality. The bullet is a bandage. It does not cure the illness. And even then murder for something so insignificant is beyond reprehensible.

philbin 3y ago
deprecative sez >" The bullet is a bandage. It does not cure the illness. "< Bullet as bandage is a poor metaphor! And a bullet usually slows/halts an attacker, which is all a defender requires. deprecative sez >" murder for something so insignificant is beyond reprehensible."< I think you misspeak: murder is always illegal but killing a person may be legal. You may be killed for property crimes in some states.

ryandrake 3y ago

I think the thrust of the article (and many of the comments) is that there are other ways to address the problem that don’t involve loss of life. Some are individual/preventative and others are society-wide and difficult to do overnight. Whenever you have a home invasion article, inevitably the “Internet Rambos” come out of the woodwork with their “simple” solution to a complex problem.

archagon 3y ago
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