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They are more expensive but still cost effective (i.e. cheaper than burning fossil fuels or nuclear power). And winds tend to be more predictable and stable on
by jillesvangurp 3y ago
They are more expensive but still cost effective (i.e. cheaper than burning fossil fuels or nuclear power). And winds tend to be more predictable and stable on the ocean. So, the capacity factor is better. And you are right that off shore wind is a lot less controversial. More importantly, it's way less hassle and risk. There are no NIMBY's blocking it. There are no complex land ownership issues to resolve. Magic wands to make all that go away sadly don't exist. So, there's very little land where you can just decide to plop down a few hundred wind mills without getting bogged down in years of bickering with the locals, sorting out all sorts of complex issues, etc.
Also, out on the ocean there are no roads to navigate so moving big/heavy things around is a lot easier to do. All you need is ships. Transporting a blade that is over a 100m long over land is hard and expensive. The infrastructure just isn't ready for that. Off shore wind mills can be bigger than onshore wind mills for this reason. Floating offshore wind is now also becoming a thing. This will unlock areas further away from the coast.
Mass producing, mostly pre-assembled wind mills and shipping them out is a scalable business. Companies have been doing this for a few years now and it's working. They are getting good at it. They are making incremental improvements and learning ways to improve things. This learning effect is very real. There's no shortage of suitable spots to place these things. It's more a matter of how many GW do you need and how expensive is that going to be?
- thedrbrian 3y ago> According to this page [1] it was $2 Billion for the installation of 130Mw of this farm and that it's only got a 20 year lifespan . Say a generous 50% capacity factor gives us 65Mw output or 1560Mwh per day for a total of 569400 Mwh per year. About 11,380,000 total from this farm in the next 20 year. so 2,000,000,000 / 11,380,000 = $175.62 per Mw and that assumes you bought all of the energy in that initial 2 billion and that there's no maintenance required. cheap [2] Assumes a cost for operation and maintenance for various forms of power plants and puts gas turbines at $20 and offshore wind at $181. still cheap. How much cheaper is it to have dispatch-able wind power? [1]https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/renewable/new-england-is-moving-ahead-with-offshore-wind-facilities-despite-their-cost/ https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/renewable/new-eng... [2]https://www.power-technology.com/features/featurepower-plant-om-how-does-the-industry-stack-up-on-cost-4417756/?cf-view https://www.power-technology.com/features/featurepower-plant...
- KevinMS 3y agoI don't see the cost of keeping backup generation on the grid for when the wind isn't blowing.
- naasking 3y agoIt's still new though. I'd be concerned about corrosion issues which aren't as common in land installs. Has that been assessed?