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> Supply and demand, baby! If a company really likes you, they can always scale up your pay even if you are in a low cost of living place. I don't think it's t

> Supply and demand, baby! If a company really likes you, they can always scale up your pay even if you are in a low cost of living place. I don't think it's that easy. When Person A who is living in a high-cost area asks for a raise, they will be perceived right. When Person B who is living in a low-cost area does the same, they will be perceived greedy. If the company thinks that cost-of-living has value, it will.

serial_dev 3y ago
You need competing offers, then it doesn't matter if they think you are greedy (whatever the f that means in work context), because if they come back with that bs reasoning as to why they won't give you a raise, you can resign on the spot. In my experience getting competing offers remotely is not easy, but gets easier once you landed a well paying job.
- laserlight 3y ago
  > You need competing offers, then it doesn't matter if they think you are greedy For sure. I gave the example of asking for a raise, because of the way parent comment was phrased: “If a company really likes you”. When you have competing offers, it's not a matter of liking. Having a competing offer doesn't make your pay independent of where you live though. If enough companies make your pay a function of cost of living, you will have a tough time reaching Bay Area salaries. > whatever the f that means in work context Can't agree more. Having seen spectacular failures from those who are supposed to be business-minded, I've come to appreciate that humans have their biases.
roland35 3y ago
Honestly the best thing you can do is get alternative offers - that is what talks. In my mind it's easier getting a raise in a lower cost location. If the budget for a role is $200k for SF and $150k for Corntown Iowa, I already have $50k of wiggle room before I even hit the existing budget. But I personally just ask for the SF rate :)

serial_dev 3y ago

You need competing offers, then it doesn't matter if they think you are greedy (whatever the f that means in work context), because if they come back with that bs reasoning as to why they won't give you a raise, you can resign on the spot. In my experience getting competing offers remotely is not easy, but gets easier once you landed a well paying job.

laserlight 3y ago
> You need competing offers, then it doesn't matter if they think you are greedy For sure. I gave the example of asking for a raise, because of the way parent comment was phrased: “If a company really likes you”. When you have competing offers, it's not a matter of liking. Having a competing offer doesn't make your pay independent of where you live though. If enough companies make your pay a function of cost of living, you will have a tough time reaching Bay Area salaries. > whatever the f that means in work context Can't agree more. Having seen spectacular failures from those who are supposed to be business-minded, I've come to appreciate that humans have their biases.

roland35 3y ago

Honestly the best thing you can do is get alternative offers - that is what talks. In my mind it's easier getting a raise in a lower cost location. If the budget for a role is $200k for SF and $150k for Corntown Iowa, I already have $50k of wiggle room before I even hit the existing budget. But I personally just ask for the SF rate :)