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This sounds similar to what's happened in Oakland, CA. When I moved here 25 years ago there was a huge underground music and arts scene in West Oakland warehous

This sounds similar to what's happened in Oakland, CA. When I moved here 25 years ago there was a huge underground music and arts scene in West Oakland warehouses but the last 10 years of gentrification has wiped it out. After the pandemic (and constant right-wing propaganda) Oakland is now once again deemed a wasteland and businesses are fleeing, but I've started noticing a new youth culture is slowly starting to emerge here and there. I've seen the pattern in several other places as well: arts thrive in the affordable undesirable edges of society until it generates enough buzz for capitalists to notice it and move in seeking to profit off of it. The problem is that culture is not valued in capitalism because it has no landlord.

Gibbon1 3y ago
The crackdown on all the spaces after the Ghostship fire basically obliterated it. Says something about the civic culture in the US that they chose to just wipe those spaces out instead of just making sure they were safe.
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- ambicapter 3y ago
  "making sure they were safe" What a weird thing to say. Places like Ghostship are built on not following the rules. You think they're going to follow the rules on fire safety? You want the authorities to spent their time and energy trying to enforce rules on a place who's raison d'etre is to be anti-authority? Sounds like a waste of everyone's time.
  - Gibbon1 3y ago
    Why is that weird? The Ghostship was a nightmare firetrap that the code enforcement people knew about and did nothing. In a perfect world they'd have done their job and 36 people would still be a alive. In a less perfect world they'd be in prison. Most of the places they shut down were mostly fine.
kwere 3y ago
>culture is not valued in capitalism because it has no landlord intellectual property is the way to monetize intangible culture

Gibbon1 3y ago

The crackdown on all the spaces after the Ghostship fire basically obliterated it. Says something about the civic culture in the US that they chose to just wipe those spaces out instead of just making sure they were safe.

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ambicapter 3y ago
"making sure they were safe" What a weird thing to say. Places like Ghostship are built on not following the rules. You think they're going to follow the rules on fire safety? You want the authorities to spent their time and energy trying to enforce rules on a place who's raison d'etre is to be anti-authority? Sounds like a waste of everyone's time.
- Gibbon1 3y ago
  Why is that weird? The Ghostship was a nightmare firetrap that the code enforcement people knew about and did nothing. In a perfect world they'd have done their job and 36 people would still be a alive. In a less perfect world they'd be in prison. Most of the places they shut down were mostly fine.

kwere 3y ago

>culture is not valued in capitalism because it has no landlord intellectual property is the way to monetize intangible culture