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Feels kind of gross to include the nieces observation that he had been stressed as some kind of counterpoint to the statement in the title.

TaylorAlexander 3y ago
Yeah I’d be pretty stressed if I felt like I was going to be killed.
dist-epoch 3y ago
Yeah, way to raise doubt about a nice narrative.
throwawaaarrgh 3y ago
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- burnished 3y ago
  That is not evidence. This is actually my problem - the lot of you treating that tidbit as if it was indicative of an actual suicide are only doing so because it was offered as it, which has more to do with sentence structure than your reasoning faculties.
- dang 3y ago
  You've unfortunately been breaking the site guidelines a lot lately - not only in this comment but others such as https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39719417 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39719417 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39681453 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39681453 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39681364 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39681364 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39616844 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39616844 If this keeps up, we're going to have to ban you. I appreciate your good comments, but they don't make it ok to break the rules. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
  - throwawaaarrgh 3y ago
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JackFr 3y ago
Why? A completely unvetted “family friend” who won’t even give a last name provides a salacious quote that’s completely unverifiable. A niece, known to be related and with a name and address offers a counterpoint. It’s ok to be skeptical. Things like: What did the note say? Where did the gun come from? Is there any CCTV video from the hotel and garage? still need to be investigated by the police. It is possible that he was stressed, depressed, and expected to have his reputation (and life) destroyed by scorched earth lawyers for Boeing.
- theultdev 3y ago
  I wonder why they wouldn't give a last name... Half the "news" articles nowadays are "sources familiar with the matter". Now that Boeing is in the hot seat we want to identify journalist sources? And I don't think there's a rule that we can only talk about things that have been fully investigated. It's on ongoing current event and a development in it. It can be talked about if people want to talk about it and can do it civilly.
  - burnished 3y ago
    What I'm realizing now is that I needed to do some educating as part of that comment - I'm surprised that so many people are interpreting those statements from the family as evidence of suicidal feelings, ideation, and planning.
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- burnished 3y ago
  Because being stressed in that situation is expected and isn't in any way a counter claim, yet was offered like it was. You calling it a counterpoint is actually my point - it in no way is. Being skeptical is good but that isn't skepticism its the gullibility of the cynic
foofie 3y ago
> Feels kind of gross to include the nieces observation that he had been stressed as some kind of counterpoint to the statement in the title. You're grossly misrepresenting what the nieces actually said. The article is quite unequivocal: the quote in the article is literally "stressed and depressed". Why did you opted to omit the reference to depression? Do you think direct statements from his family should be ignored but your personal baseless assertions should take center stage? In addition to that, here's what his own brother had to say about the apparent suicide: > “He was suffering from PTSD and anxiety attacks as a result of being subjected to the hostile work environment at Boeing, which we believe led to his death,” the brother said. Why is this fact glanced over?
- burnished 3y ago
  Because the article is short enough I felt comfortable referring to it in a shortened manner. Did I complain about that quote from the brother? So why are you bringing it up? Its fucking ghoulish to use a nieces statement that the fun uncle got less fun leading up to this stressful thing as a counterpoint here.

TaylorAlexander 3y ago

Yeah I’d be pretty stressed if I felt like I was going to be killed.

dist-epoch 3y ago

Yeah, way to raise doubt about a nice narrative.

throwawaaarrgh 3y ago

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burnished 3y ago
That is not evidence. This is actually my problem - the lot of you treating that tidbit as if it was indicative of an actual suicide are only doing so because it was offered as it, which has more to do with sentence structure than your reasoning faculties.
dang 3y ago
You've unfortunately been breaking the site guidelines a lot lately - not only in this comment but others such as https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39719417 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39719417 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39681453 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39681453 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39681364 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39681364 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39616844 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39616844 If this keeps up, we're going to have to ban you. I appreciate your good comments, but they don't make it ok to break the rules. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
- throwawaaarrgh 3y ago
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JackFr 3y ago

Why? A completely unvetted “family friend” who won’t even give a last name provides a salacious quote that’s completely unverifiable. A niece, known to be related and with a name and address offers a counterpoint. It’s ok to be skeptical. Things like: What did the note say? Where did the gun come from? Is there any CCTV video from the hotel and garage? still need to be investigated by the police. It is possible that he was stressed, depressed, and expected to have his reputation (and life) destroyed by scorched earth lawyers for Boeing.

theultdev 3y ago
I wonder why they wouldn't give a last name... Half the "news" articles nowadays are "sources familiar with the matter". Now that Boeing is in the hot seat we want to identify journalist sources? And I don't think there's a rule that we can only talk about things that have been fully investigated. It's on ongoing current event and a development in it. It can be talked about if people want to talk about it and can do it civilly.
- burnished 3y ago
  What I'm realizing now is that I needed to do some educating as part of that comment - I'm surprised that so many people are interpreting those statements from the family as evidence of suicidal feelings, ideation, and planning.
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burnished 3y ago
Because being stressed in that situation is expected and isn't in any way a counter claim, yet was offered like it was. You calling it a counterpoint is actually my point - it in no way is. Being skeptical is good but that isn't skepticism its the gullibility of the cynic

foofie 3y ago

> Feels kind of gross to include the nieces observation that he had been stressed as some kind of counterpoint to the statement in the title. You're grossly misrepresenting what the nieces actually said. The article is quite unequivocal: the quote in the article is literally "stressed and depressed". Why did you opted to omit the reference to depression? Do you think direct statements from his family should be ignored but your personal baseless assertions should take center stage? In addition to that, here's what his own brother had to say about the apparent suicide: > “He was suffering from PTSD and anxiety attacks as a result of being subjected to the hostile work environment at Boeing, which we believe led to his death,” the brother said. Why is this fact glanced over?

burnished 3y ago
Because the article is short enough I felt comfortable referring to it in a shortened manner. Did I complain about that quote from the brother? So why are you bringing it up? Its fucking ghoulish to use a nieces statement that the fun uncle got less fun leading up to this stressful thing as a counterpoint here.