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As long as they support them 8 or so years that gives you a good 4 years with it for the low low price of $699. Besides, in 4 years, 8GB RAM will not be enough

As long as they support them 8 or so years that gives you a good 4 years with it for the low low price of $699. Besides, in 4 years, 8GB RAM will not be enough, so it'll be time to upgrade anyway.

quesera 3y ago
Apple typically provides parts and support for at least 5 years after sale, regardless of design/tech era. So we'll see how long the M1s are for sale at Walmart or anywhere, but these computers should be supported until 2029.
superkuh 3y ago
8GB of ram is already not enough now.
- tim333 3y ago
  I'm typing this on an M1 with 8GB and it flies along with very few problems. I'm not sure what application would overload it?
  - superkuh 3y ago
    Try running a browser and adobe creative suite along with a darktable/lighttable. That kind of photography workflow also fills up the tiny available storage really fast so the macs end up being unwieldly octopuses of fragile USB/thunderbolt devices. I don't do it myself, but I do do tech support for them when they go wrong. And usually it's because they run out of the paltry 8GB of ram.
- Damogran6 3y ago
  That's not accurate. For an average user 8Gb RAM shared with the GPU and a really fast nVME bus...the RAM is just L4 Cache at this point and there's little to no penalty to using swap like there was with north bridges, south bridges and spinny disks.
  - rany_ 3y ago
    The only penalty is using up your flash's write cycles; but of course, this works to Apple's favor because it means you'll need to replace this thing sooner when the flash dies. Best part? You can't easily replace the flash because it's soldered to the board.... and the amount of people that could do this repair properly is close to non-existent.
    - Damogran6 3y ago
      Eventually...maybe...considering the sectors get flagged and there's spare sectors to be rolled into service...and odds are the battery is the real bottleneck before the Flash becomes an issue.
      - rany_ 3y ago
        You could replace the battery for under 100 USD, you can't do the same for the flash storage.

As long as they support them 8 or so years that gives you a good 4 years with it for the low low price of $699. Besides, in 4 years, 8GB RAM will not be enough, so it'll be time to upgrade anyway.

quesera 3y ago

Apple typically provides parts and support for at least 5 years after sale, regardless of design/tech era. So we'll see how long the M1s are for sale at Walmart or anywhere, but these computers should be supported until 2029.

superkuh 3y ago

8GB of ram is already not enough now.

tim333 3y ago
I'm typing this on an M1 with 8GB and it flies along with very few problems. I'm not sure what application would overload it?
- superkuh 3y ago
  Try running a browser and adobe creative suite along with a darktable/lighttable. That kind of photography workflow also fills up the tiny available storage really fast so the macs end up being unwieldly octopuses of fragile USB/thunderbolt devices. I don't do it myself, but I do do tech support for them when they go wrong. And usually it's because they run out of the paltry 8GB of ram.
Damogran6 3y ago
That's not accurate. For an average user 8Gb RAM shared with the GPU and a really fast nVME bus...the RAM is just L4 Cache at this point and there's little to no penalty to using swap like there was with north bridges, south bridges and spinny disks.
- rany_ 3y ago
  The only penalty is using up your flash's write cycles; but of course, this works to Apple's favor because it means you'll need to replace this thing sooner when the flash dies. Best part? You can't easily replace the flash because it's soldered to the board.... and the amount of people that could do this repair properly is close to non-existent.
  - Damogran6 3y ago
    Eventually...maybe...considering the sectors get flagged and there's spare sectors to be rolled into service...and odds are the battery is the real bottleneck before the Flash becomes an issue.
    - rany_ 3y ago
      You could replace the battery for under 100 USD, you can't do the same for the flash storage.