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I think you could make the exact same argument about almost any tech device, like the iPhone itself which is wildly popular along with the spinoffs. Also VR is

I think you could make the exact same argument about almost any tech device, like the iPhone itself which is wildly popular along with the spinoffs. Also VR isn’t what companies, Apple at least, care about. It’s a stepping stone to AR which is why the AVP does a “fake AR” of sorts as its primary mode of operation. You have to walk before you run which is also why Apple pushed VR/ARKit so hard even before they had a device to really take full advantage of it (as in a device that’s not just holding an iPad up and pointing it at table, all of 5 people care about that). The Overton window will shift if people get true utility out of VR/AR in the same way it’s shifted on everything else. Right now there just isn’t anything compelling enough to force that shift but I think it will happen quickly when there is. And before “I find X compelling”, ok, that’s great for you, for the vast majority of people the tech and/or use-cases are not there yet.

echelon 3y ago
> Also VR isn’t what companies, Apple at least, care about. It’s a stepping stone to AR I couldn't care less about AR. I want VR and only VR. I don't want digital overlays of the world around me at all. That's completely useless and will be filled with ads and noise. I want to live and breathe in imaginative fantasy worlds and escape the real world completely. I want to be a character in interactive movies. Have realistic D&D sessions with friends where the real world disappears completely. To create entire planets and universes and populate them with stories and adventures. I don't want labels on cooking ingredients, advertisements for Taco Bell while I walk around, or email notifications popping up during conversations. AR might have industrial use cases, but the real world implications are annoying.
- creeble 3y ago
  And they’ll all be in VR if it ever gains success too. But maybe there will be a few years of bliss, like the early internet. Or maybe that bliss has already happened.
moolcool 3y ago
> you could make the exact same argument about almost any tech device, like the iPhone itself I don't think this is true. There was a massive appetite for the iPhone for decades leading up to its release, and there was no question that mobile was going to have a giant role in the future of computing. If you look back, most nay-sayers didn't doubt the value or utility of pocket-computers, but rather just that Apple specifically would be out-competed by established vendors.

echelon 3y ago

> Also VR isn’t what companies, Apple at least, care about. It’s a stepping stone to AR I couldn't care less about AR. I want VR and only VR. I don't want digital overlays of the world around me at all. That's completely useless and will be filled with ads and noise. I want to live and breathe in imaginative fantasy worlds and escape the real world completely. I want to be a character in interactive movies. Have realistic D&D sessions with friends where the real world disappears completely. To create entire planets and universes and populate them with stories and adventures. I don't want labels on cooking ingredients, advertisements for Taco Bell while I walk around, or email notifications popping up during conversations. AR might have industrial use cases, but the real world implications are annoying.

creeble 3y ago
And they’ll all be in VR if it ever gains success too. But maybe there will be a few years of bliss, like the early internet. Or maybe that bliss has already happened.

moolcool 3y ago

> you could make the exact same argument about almost any tech device, like the iPhone itself I don't think this is true. There was a massive appetite for the iPhone for decades leading up to its release, and there was no question that mobile was going to have a giant role in the future of computing. If you look back, most nay-sayers didn't doubt the value or utility of pocket-computers, but rather just that Apple specifically would be out-competed by established vendors.