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"Der Klang der Familie: Berlin, Techno and the Fall of the Wall" [0] is a good book on the origins of the Berlin Techno scene. It's based on interviews and disc
by helloplanets 3y ago
"Der Klang der Familie: Berlin, Techno and the Fall of the Wall" [0] is a good book on the origins of the Berlin Techno scene. It's based on interviews and discussions by the people originally setting up the whole thing, making it a pretty breezy read that you don't necessarily have to go through chronologically.
No city can really replicate the absurd situation Berlin was in after the second world war. The absolute oppressive atmosphere, with one day the whole city getting flipped upside down. Anyone being able to take over a building on the East side and throw a party there. When before you could end up in a cell overnight for playing a boombox too loud on the street. The original location for Tresor (club) was the literal translation of the German word: A big old safe in a bank. That you had to climb down a ladder to get to.
An unexpected connection of cities is between Berlin and Detroit: Underground Resistance (a group of Detroit born Techno producers) among many others playing gigs in Tresor going back to the early nineties.
[0]: https://www.amazon.com/Klang-Familie-Felix-Denk/dp/3738604294 https://www.amazon.com/Klang-Familie-Felix-Denk/dp/373860429...
- hackandthink 3y agoCan't remember climbing a ladder down to get into Tresor. The ladder was into the cellar of the Fischbüro location somewhere in Kreuzberg 36. (these guys started Tresor later) (Eimer (Bucket) was a really bad location several years later, you wouldn't have been able to get out of the basement if ...)
- wizerdrobe 3y agoWhat exactly is Kreuzberg 36? I always assumed that was a street number after hearing an old Smut Peddlers song. https://genius.com/Smut-peddlers-kreuzberg-36-lyrics https://genius.com/Smut-peddlers-kreuzberg-36-lyrics
- luplex 3y agoKreuzberg is a borough in Berlin with 150k inhabitants, and it used to be divided into two postcodes: 36 and 61. 36 is the cooler, poorer, more political, younger half of the borough, it really was a center for non-conformists after reunification, but it's being gentrified these days.
- bravura 3y agohttps://needleberlin.com/2014/07/03/the-two-faces-of-kreuzberg-36-brennt-61-pennt/ https://needleberlin.com/2014/07/03/the-two-faces-of-kreuzbe... "36 Brennt, 61 Pennt" 'I’ve tried to come up with a rhyme that works in English: “36’s on fire, 61’s just tired” was one solution, but it doesn’t carry the matter-of-factness of the German.'
- wrs 3y agoChatGPT suggests “36 blazes, 61 lazes”.
- seabass-labrax 3y agoFor a AI paradigm that gives the neural network no explicit information about phonetics, the ability of GPT to produce rhyming phrases never ceases to amaze me - especially in a language which is as infamous for its inconsistent orthography as English. Has there been any research attempting to work out how such subtle patterns are learnt by the AI?
- mitjam 3y agoIt‘s actually called SO36 and a famous punk / music club named after the former postal zone 1000 Berlin 36 which was a part of Berlin Kreuzberg. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SO36 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SO36 https://www.so36.com/ https://www.so36.com/
- crucialfelix 3y agoAnd it's still going strong
- helloplanets 3y agoSorry got my details mixed up, Tresor had a staircase that led downstairs to the vault!
- empath-nirvana 3y ago> after the second world war. I think you mean the cold war.
- psunavy03 3y agoWow, this exchange made me feel old.
- helloplanets 3y agoNo, I was talking about the atmosphere before the wall came down, during the cold war. That paragraph was written in a bit of a confusing way now that I look at it, though.
- aow83u45oaw8u 3y agoI don't think they had boomboxes during WWII
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- scns 3y agoTresor was the first club to fly over artists from Detroit.