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Title should be "The real Miss Julie".

gjm11 3y ago
Does anyone have anything resembling statistics on how often the HN auto-de-clickbaiter actually improves article titles? I only notice it when it wrecks them, which it seems like it does really often, but maybe there are dozens of cases where it's just quietly making things a little bit better. Or not. [EDITED to add:] Of course I'm not suggesting an automated system that assesses which changes are improvements, or anything like that. But maybe there's something somewhere that logs every title change that gets made, and every now and then someone could look at the most recent 50 and see whether it's making things better or worse on net.
- Brajeshwar 3y ago
  I could not find on https://hackernewstitles.netlify.app https://hackernewstitles.netlify.app yet I'm sure I didn't edit it from the original, so that would be the HN's auto edit doing its job. Let the mods come in and make the title better.
  - pvg 3y ago
    You can just check after posting and fix the title yourself, if the autoedit messes something up.
    - Brajeshwar 3y ago
      I can't edit after a while. I think, I can edit within 60-min. I missed the window.
      - pvg 3y ago
        Right, I meant worth checking after posting, now it's up to the title deities.
- CyberDildonics 3y ago
  The pipeline of a title is: 1. A blogger writes a short clickbait title with no information about what the article is about. (The real Miss Julie) 2. The hacker news de-clickbait filter takes it from a generic, no context title to something grammatically incorrect and nonsensical. (The Miss Julie) 3. Someone changes the title but still doesn't give any context. "Fish swim in the ocean" becomes "Fish the ocean" becomes "Scientist observe fish".
  - prerok 3y ago
    Genuine interest: why is the title considered clickbaity? I understand that the automated system transformed it and in this case would consider the automation to be wrong, however I don't really see the article itself as clickbaity.
    - CyberDildonics 3y ago
      why is the title considered clickbaity? Because it has no information and there is no way to know what the article is about.
      - CRConrad 3y ago
        It obviously has information; you just didn't understand it. That's not a problem with the title.
        CyberDildonics 3y ago
        If there was no problem with the title, then why was it changed?
      - MarcelOlsz 3y ago
        In other words, it's baiting me to click.
    - pvg 3y ago
      The automatic edit is obviously wrong but the title is not clickbait, the GP is just mistaken about that.
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Does anyone have anything resembling statistics on how often the HN auto-de-clickbaiter actually improves article titles? I only notice it when it wrecks them, which it seems like it does really often, but maybe there are dozens of cases where it's just quietly making things a little bit better. Or not. [EDITED to add:] Of course I'm not suggesting an automated system that assesses which changes are improvements, or anything like that. But maybe there's something somewhere that logs every title change that gets made, and every now and then someone could look at the most recent 50 and see whether it's making things better or worse on net.

Brajeshwar 3y ago
I could not find on https://hackernewstitles.netlify.app https://hackernewstitles.netlify.app yet I'm sure I didn't edit it from the original, so that would be the HN's auto edit doing its job. Let the mods come in and make the title better.
- pvg 3y ago
  You can just check after posting and fix the title yourself, if the autoedit messes something up.
  - Brajeshwar 3y ago
    I can't edit after a while. I think, I can edit within 60-min. I missed the window.
    - pvg 3y ago
      Right, I meant worth checking after posting, now it's up to the title deities.
CyberDildonics 3y ago
The pipeline of a title is: 1. A blogger writes a short clickbait title with no information about what the article is about. (The real Miss Julie) 2. The hacker news de-clickbait filter takes it from a generic, no context title to something grammatically incorrect and nonsensical. (The Miss Julie) 3. Someone changes the title but still doesn't give any context. "Fish swim in the ocean" becomes "Fish the ocean" becomes "Scientist observe fish".
- prerok 3y ago
  Genuine interest: why is the title considered clickbaity? I understand that the automated system transformed it and in this case would consider the automation to be wrong, however I don't really see the article itself as clickbaity.
  - CyberDildonics 3y ago
    why is the title considered clickbaity? Because it has no information and there is no way to know what the article is about.
    - CRConrad 3y ago
      It obviously has information; you just didn't understand it. That's not a problem with the title.
      - CyberDildonics 3y ago
        If there was no problem with the title, then why was it changed?
    - MarcelOlsz 3y ago
      In other words, it's baiting me to click.
  - pvg 3y ago
    The automatic edit is obviously wrong but the title is not clickbait, the GP is just mistaken about that.

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