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Is there something inherently difficult or novel about VR operating software that would make it difficult to design or implement controls? I can understand trac

Is there something inherently difficult or novel about VR operating software that would make it difficult to design or implement controls? I can understand tracking hands is difficult, but I mean the problems you have. It seems crazy that after investing so much in the 'hard part', the VR hardware and software itself, they'd drop the ball on what seems mundane - basic design of UI controls.

KingOfCoders 3y ago
No I don't think so. They just miss the Apple attitude of UI. It's like the Windows setting system. I'm using Win11/WSL, and while it works, the Windows settings are a mixture of Win95/Aero/3rd Party Plugins (Nvidia)/Win11 and some things that just look like Win3.1. Googling to change DNS settings: Step 1: Open the Control Panel. ... Step 2: Open Network and Sharing Center. ... Step 3: Choose the connection. ... Step 4: Change adapter settings. ... Step 5: Choose Internet Protocol Version 4 (TCP/IPv4) ... Step 6: Click on Properties. ... So I don't think it has anything to do with VR
- vel0city 3y ago
  This is old Windows. On Win11: Settings Network and Internet Choose either your wifi or Ethernet Click Edit next to DNS Server Assignment
  - thfuran 3y ago
    Have they finally unfucked the settings and brought them all into a consistent ui, or have they just moved that particular one to yet another new layer?
    - mavamaarten 3y ago
      It's definitely not all there yet. When fumbling with sound devices, the first thing I do is try to find the old menu which is luckily still there.
  - jorvi 3y ago
    Yep. Microsoft has taken a lot of effort in the last two years to empty out Control Panel and get everything into Settings, along with unifying everything into the Win11 Fluent (or whatever it is called these days) style. To be honest, in a lot of cases when you need “Advanced $ Settings” it still kicks you into the old Control Panel-style pop-up windows, but at least it’s almost all in one place now.
    - wolverine876 3y ago
      Let's not give them credit for having two subsystems called 'control panel' and 'settings'. That it happened even once is an embarassment, and I think they started that with Windows 8.
      - int_19h 3y ago
        That is indeed when it is started, but that's the one and only time - it's just that this transition is still ongoing, after 11 years. By now everything that a casual user might need is in the "new" settings, and much of the advanced stuff is as well, but it's not complete.
bee_rider 3y ago
It’s a new UI paradigm, not just a new UI toolkit or something like that. I think those are quite difficult, I can only think of like 4 in the computer space: text & terminals, windows mouse and keyboard, menu driven (consoles & cable boxes), and smartphone. We don’t come up with totally new ways to interact with our computers often. And Facebook has never stood out for their UI brilliance.

KingOfCoders 3y ago

No I don't think so. They just miss the Apple attitude of UI. It's like the Windows setting system. I'm using Win11/WSL, and while it works, the Windows settings are a mixture of Win95/Aero/3rd Party Plugins (Nvidia)/Win11 and some things that just look like Win3.1. Googling to change DNS settings: Step 1: Open the Control Panel. ... Step 2: Open Network and Sharing Center. ... Step 3: Choose the connection. ... Step 4: Change adapter settings. ... Step 5: Choose Internet Protocol Version 4 (TCP/IPv4) ... Step 6: Click on Properties. ... So I don't think it has anything to do with VR

vel0city 3y ago
This is old Windows. On Win11: Settings Network and Internet Choose either your wifi or Ethernet Click Edit next to DNS Server Assignment
- thfuran 3y ago
  Have they finally unfucked the settings and brought them all into a consistent ui, or have they just moved that particular one to yet another new layer?
  - mavamaarten 3y ago
    It's definitely not all there yet. When fumbling with sound devices, the first thing I do is try to find the old menu which is luckily still there.
- jorvi 3y ago
  Yep. Microsoft has taken a lot of effort in the last two years to empty out Control Panel and get everything into Settings, along with unifying everything into the Win11 Fluent (or whatever it is called these days) style. To be honest, in a lot of cases when you need “Advanced $ Settings” it still kicks you into the old Control Panel-style pop-up windows, but at least it’s almost all in one place now.
  - wolverine876 3y ago
    Let's not give them credit for having two subsystems called 'control panel' and 'settings'. That it happened even once is an embarassment, and I think they started that with Windows 8.
    - int_19h 3y ago
      That is indeed when it is started, but that's the one and only time - it's just that this transition is still ongoing, after 11 years. By now everything that a casual user might need is in the "new" settings, and much of the advanced stuff is as well, but it's not complete.

bee_rider 3y ago

It’s a new UI paradigm, not just a new UI toolkit or something like that. I think those are quite difficult, I can only think of like 4 in the computer space: text & terminals, windows mouse and keyboard, menu driven (consoles & cable boxes), and smartphone. We don’t come up with totally new ways to interact with our computers often. And Facebook has never stood out for their UI brilliance.