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That the first port of call is to blame the people on board is completely expected. This one is interesting because the explanation is "our flagship aircraft ha

That the first port of call is to blame the people on board is completely expected. This one is interesting because the explanation is "our flagship aircraft has a kill-everyone-onboard switch on the pilot chair that someone pushed". That's not totally reassuring from Boeing. I guess it adds to the accumulating reasons to never get on one of their aeroplanes.

gruez 3y ago
>This one is interesting because the explanation is "our flagship aircraft has a kill-everyone-onboard switch on the pilot chair that someone pushed". Wait till you hear about the yoke, or any of the other flight controls.
- JonChesterfield 3y ago
  I suppose opinion is divided on whether the pilot should be able to crash at will. There's a copilot involved partly on those grounds. Somewhere there's a flow chart missing an exclusive or on adjusting the seat position and putting the plane into a dive. And another one that failed to put the control out of the way of people walking around.
  - gruez 3y ago
    >Somewhere there's a flow chart missing an exclusive or on adjusting the seat position and putting the plane into a dive "Plane crashed because the seat adjustment button got jammed and locked the pilot out of his controls, and he didn't this until it was too late" >And another one that failed to put the control out of the way of people walking around. Other comments in this thread has linked to videos that show the button is behind a cover.
rootusrootus 3y ago
It's a necessary switch in the right location and protected by a cover. Of all the controls on the flight deck, this is pretty low on my list of concerns. I bet nearly all similar large aircraft have something pretty much equivalent, given the obvious use case.
- lostlogin 3y ago
  > this is pretty low on my list of concerns. It’s probably quite far up the list for those who ended up smashing into the ceiling. Assuming this was the cause, it’s a problem, though maybe less so than other shite Boeing systems in play at the moment (eg, the de-ice situation).
  - rootusrootus 3y ago
    Maybe the switch isn't the problem, maybe it's the pilot, or the person who reached under that cover and pushed the button? It sounds like you're on the Boeing Hate Train, though, so I doubt I can convince you. That's alright. Have a nice weekend.
    - lostlogin 3y ago
      > Maybe the switch isn't the problem Boeing appears to think it might be. Posted elsewhere here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cRF1YTVJ1Q4 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cRF1YTVJ1Q4

gruez 3y ago

>This one is interesting because the explanation is "our flagship aircraft has a kill-everyone-onboard switch on the pilot chair that someone pushed". Wait till you hear about the yoke, or any of the other flight controls.

JonChesterfield 3y ago
I suppose opinion is divided on whether the pilot should be able to crash at will. There's a copilot involved partly on those grounds. Somewhere there's a flow chart missing an exclusive or on adjusting the seat position and putting the plane into a dive. And another one that failed to put the control out of the way of people walking around.
- gruez 3y ago
  >Somewhere there's a flow chart missing an exclusive or on adjusting the seat position and putting the plane into a dive "Plane crashed because the seat adjustment button got jammed and locked the pilot out of his controls, and he didn't this until it was too late" >And another one that failed to put the control out of the way of people walking around. Other comments in this thread has linked to videos that show the button is behind a cover.

rootusrootus 3y ago

It's a necessary switch in the right location and protected by a cover. Of all the controls on the flight deck, this is pretty low on my list of concerns. I bet nearly all similar large aircraft have something pretty much equivalent, given the obvious use case.

lostlogin 3y ago
> this is pretty low on my list of concerns. It’s probably quite far up the list for those who ended up smashing into the ceiling. Assuming this was the cause, it’s a problem, though maybe less so than other shite Boeing systems in play at the moment (eg, the de-ice situation).
- rootusrootus 3y ago
  Maybe the switch isn't the problem, maybe it's the pilot, or the person who reached under that cover and pushed the button? It sounds like you're on the Boeing Hate Train, though, so I doubt I can convince you. That's alright. Have a nice weekend.
  - lostlogin 3y ago
    > Maybe the switch isn't the problem Boeing appears to think it might be. Posted elsewhere here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cRF1YTVJ1Q4 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cRF1YTVJ1Q4