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My bad. But the point stands. Complaining about a cultural movement that they have almost entirely gentrified is massively ironic.

Mashimo 3y ago
I think the scene is complaining about tourists and "foreigners" was a bad choice of word in this thread. People are flocking to big names and entry prices are as high as they have ever been. It's less about the actual music. And in that complaint I don't see any irony.
have_faith 3y ago
Do you have a lot of knowledge about how the techno scene in Berlin evolved and came to be?
piva00 3y ago
I wouldn't say "gentrified", techno just evolved from the Detroit roots, first in the UK and then continental Europe (Belgium, Netherlands, Germany, etc.). Techno came from an already gentrified African-American community in Detroit, the Belleville Three [0] were from a more affluent part of Detroit at the time, inspired by the 70s/80s German and Japanese electronic music scene, it was never like the roots of hip-hop... [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Belleville_Three https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Belleville_Three
- Detroiterr 3y ago
  > the Belleville Three [0] were from a more affluent part of Detroit at the time Nobody in Detroit has ever called Belleville affluent (or 'more affluent' or whatever), and I go back to those days. I will politely omit the lol because you (obviously) aren't from around here. Techno was indeed the music from middle-class African-Americans. It's too bad the world demanded that young Black male artists must act like the white world expected - like gangsters - to sell hip-hop records.
- samatman 3y ago
  Belleville? Affluent?? Lol. Lmao. Belleville is Juggalo country, cuz. Ypsituckians working in auto parts factories.
  - Detroiterr 3y ago
    Ha. Maybe they are thinking of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Triplets_of_Belleville https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Triplets_of_Belleville (Could that be a subtle reference? Was the director or writer a techno fan?)

Mashimo 3y ago

I think the scene is complaining about tourists and "foreigners" was a bad choice of word in this thread. People are flocking to big names and entry prices are as high as they have ever been. It's less about the actual music. And in that complaint I don't see any irony.

have_faith 3y ago

Do you have a lot of knowledge about how the techno scene in Berlin evolved and came to be?

piva00 3y ago

I wouldn't say "gentrified", techno just evolved from the Detroit roots, first in the UK and then continental Europe (Belgium, Netherlands, Germany, etc.). Techno came from an already gentrified African-American community in Detroit, the Belleville Three [0] were from a more affluent part of Detroit at the time, inspired by the 70s/80s German and Japanese electronic music scene, it was never like the roots of hip-hop... [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Belleville_Three https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Belleville_Three

Detroiterr 3y ago
> the Belleville Three [0] were from a more affluent part of Detroit at the time Nobody in Detroit has ever called Belleville affluent (or 'more affluent' or whatever), and I go back to those days. I will politely omit the lol because you (obviously) aren't from around here. Techno was indeed the music from middle-class African-Americans. It's too bad the world demanded that young Black male artists must act like the white world expected - like gangsters - to sell hip-hop records.
samatman 3y ago
Belleville? Affluent?? Lol. Lmao. Belleville is Juggalo country, cuz. Ypsituckians working in auto parts factories.
- Detroiterr 3y ago
  Ha. Maybe they are thinking of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Triplets_of_Belleville https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Triplets_of_Belleville (Could that be a subtle reference? Was the director or writer a techno fan?)