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It's pretty brutal if nobody cares about the optics of this anymore, just kill off whoever is inconvenient. I guess after Epstein's "two cameras malfunction" no

It's pretty brutal if nobody cares about the optics of this anymore, just kill off whoever is inconvenient. I guess after Epstein's "two cameras malfunction" nobody cares about any public backlash and there is "normal day in Russia" to be inspired from...

hnfong 3y ago
What public backlash? It seems people here are content to call those who suspect Epstein suicide "very gullible"... It's interesting how the English language labels people "conspiracy theorists", like how the totally batshit crazy ones gets lumped together with those that actually seem to be suspect.
- logicchains 3y ago
  It's not the "English language", the term "conspiracy theorist" was literally invented by the CIA to smear people who alleged the CIA was conspiring against the public.
  - defrost 3y ago
    That's a conspiracy theory: The term "conspiracy theory" is itself the subject of a conspiracy theory, which posits that the term was popularized by the CIA in order to discredit conspiratorial believers, particularly critics of the Warren Commission, by making them a target of ridicule. [..] The idea that the CIA was responsible for popularising the term "conspiracy theory" was analyzed by Michael Butter, a Professor of American Literary and Cultural History at the University of Tübingen. .. and that analysis concluded "yeah, nuh". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory#Origin_and_usage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory#Origin_and_u...
AtlasBarfed 3y ago
It is appalling that as many details as possible are immediately leaked (or were they outright released by the police) about it being a suicide: gunshot to head in a remote location, "there is a note", "family said he had PTSD and was under stress". A major whistleblower dies in any non-natural manner should be a major investigation by the highest levels of the FBI, not immediately handled and released by the podunk no-resource local police that don't want to touch the case with a ten-foot pole. That's what is most galling. The media and police work in lockstep to immediately brand it a suicide. The only headline should be "Boeing whistleblower found dead, FBI is investigating".
- tim333 3y ago
  There's something to be said for openness. I'd prefer that to a year or two of no information.

hnfong 3y ago

What public backlash? It seems people here are content to call those who suspect Epstein suicide "very gullible"... It's interesting how the English language labels people "conspiracy theorists", like how the totally batshit crazy ones gets lumped together with those that actually seem to be suspect.

logicchains 3y ago
It's not the "English language", the term "conspiracy theorist" was literally invented by the CIA to smear people who alleged the CIA was conspiring against the public.
- defrost 3y ago
  That's a conspiracy theory: The term "conspiracy theory" is itself the subject of a conspiracy theory, which posits that the term was popularized by the CIA in order to discredit conspiratorial believers, particularly critics of the Warren Commission, by making them a target of ridicule. [..] The idea that the CIA was responsible for popularising the term "conspiracy theory" was analyzed by Michael Butter, a Professor of American Literary and Cultural History at the University of Tübingen. .. and that analysis concluded "yeah, nuh". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory#Origin_and_usage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory#Origin_and_u...

AtlasBarfed 3y ago

It is appalling that as many details as possible are immediately leaked (or were they outright released by the police) about it being a suicide: gunshot to head in a remote location, "there is a note", "family said he had PTSD and was under stress". A major whistleblower dies in any non-natural manner should be a major investigation by the highest levels of the FBI, not immediately handled and released by the podunk no-resource local police that don't want to touch the case with a ten-foot pole. That's what is most galling. The media and police work in lockstep to immediately brand it a suicide. The only headline should be "Boeing whistleblower found dead, FBI is investigating".

tim333 3y ago
There's something to be said for openness. I'd prefer that to a year or two of no information.