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Maybe I should read the article again but I thought the grandfather died in April but the excuse was for November.

dchest 3y ago
"But perhaps the most bizarre story involves Liebowitz missing an April 12, 2019 hearing, explaining that his grandfather had passed." "The respondent also admitted that his grandfather died on April 9, 2019, and was buried that same day."
xymostech 3y ago
My source was also the Lawful Masses stream, but it sounded like the original excuse was made in April, but it took until November for him to actually produce the death certificate to prove that he had lied about when his grandfather had died.
- justinclift 3y ago
  It sounds like he didn't lie though? His grandfather did pass away a few days prior. Depending upon what was happening with the related family, there can be a whole bunch of things that need urgently taking care of in relation to it.
  - ricardobeat 3y ago
    That point is made in the article - he could have simply said the Grandfather died that week, and it would have been accepted. Instead he doubled down on going on attack, most likely because it did feel like a lie when he said it or was not the actual reason he missed the proceedings.
    - saalweachter 3y ago
      One of the risks of operating in bad faith is that people will stop giving you the benefit of a doubt.
IG_Semmelweiss 3y ago
This also took me a second The issue is he failed to show for a hearing. We miss things all the time: Flights, meetings, tests, etc. We have normalized missing to then try to explain after the fact. Thats not how it works for the courts. You must show up unless you are physically unable to do so. Yhis is why the burial date mattered. Clearly a death on the same day would make it impossible to attend. But a few days prior would mean its not impossible. You simply need to notify and a new date is granted. Its just poor planning on the plaintiff side.

"But perhaps the most bizarre story involves Liebowitz missing an April 12, 2019 hearing, explaining that his grandfather had passed." "The respondent also admitted that his grandfather died on April 9, 2019, and was buried that same day."

xymostech 3y ago

My source was also the Lawful Masses stream, but it sounded like the original excuse was made in April, but it took until November for him to actually produce the death certificate to prove that he had lied about when his grandfather had died.

justinclift 3y ago
It sounds like he didn't lie though? His grandfather did pass away a few days prior. Depending upon what was happening with the related family, there can be a whole bunch of things that need urgently taking care of in relation to it.
- ricardobeat 3y ago
  That point is made in the article - he could have simply said the Grandfather died that week, and it would have been accepted. Instead he doubled down on going on attack, most likely because it did feel like a lie when he said it or was not the actual reason he missed the proceedings.
  - saalweachter 3y ago
    One of the risks of operating in bad faith is that people will stop giving you the benefit of a doubt.

IG_Semmelweiss 3y ago

This also took me a second The issue is he failed to show for a hearing. We miss things all the time: Flights, meetings, tests, etc. We have normalized missing to then try to explain after the fact. Thats not how it works for the courts. You must show up unless you are physically unable to do so. Yhis is why the burial date mattered. Clearly a death on the same day would make it impossible to attend. But a few days prior would mean its not impossible. You simply need to notify and a new date is granted. Its just poor planning on the plaintiff side.