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>Work hours is not our major problem, it's work ethics that are lacking. The problem here is that you can't quantify "ethics." Up until today everyone believed

>Work hours is not our major problem, it's work ethics that are lacking. The problem here is that you can't quantify "ethics." Up until today everyone believed your average Greek worked 3-4 hours a day and drank coffee the rest of the day. So your side has been debunked and you come back with "ethics?" Really? At the end of the day these issues are fairly complex. There are a lot of Greeks who work hard, are far from lazy (as per German characterization), and have more or less been betrayed by their government. I also think its incredibly naive to think they could have a German-like efficiency becuse efficiency in manufacturing can only happen with deep pocketed corporations as well as a technical sector that can produce robotics and a worldwide market for its electronics of cars. We can build a Greek auto manufacturer with big loans today, make it incredibly efficient, etc but there's no market for Greek cars. The lazy Greek stereotype needs to die. Yes, they have a very young retiree age and their tax system is a mess, but they're probably a handful of reforms away from fixing all this. Oh well, back to your typical stereotype based bashing.

zerostar07 15y ago
I agree it's a stereotype, and i agree that it only takes a few reforms to fix it, but attacking the stereotype won't fix anything. My experience from working in both the private and public sector (and now luckily as an entrepreneur) is this, and i m not bashing anyone, but there is such a thing called "work ethic" and i 've lived long enough to watch it being bent with unsustainable consequences. I disagree that it takes a mountain of money to do anything successful, especially in technology, even in Greece (and it is happening, but successful businesses tend to be quiet). However you do need entrepreneurs who can do more than just lobby the government for public sector works.

zerostar07 15y ago

I agree it's a stereotype, and i agree that it only takes a few reforms to fix it, but attacking the stereotype won't fix anything. My experience from working in both the private and public sector (and now luckily as an entrepreneur) is this, and i m not bashing anyone, but there is such a thing called "work ethic" and i 've lived long enough to watch it being bent with unsustainable consequences. I disagree that it takes a mountain of money to do anything successful, especially in technology, even in Greece (and it is happening, but successful businesses tend to be quiet). However you do need entrepreneurs who can do more than just lobby the government for public sector works.