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Time to find the ATT SIM card and gut it from both of my vehicles.

oceanplexian 3y ago
Most cars have an integrated SIM. You can either pull the fuse, and lose a bunch of functionality, or if you're clever, throw an attenuator on the antenna rendering it useless but preserving the functionality of the rest of your car.
- plagiarist 3y ago
  Do they not store it an just upload it once the car goes in for service? I have a 32 Gb mini SD card the size of a fingernail that was like $10, something like that would store a fuckload of hard braking events.
  - hiatus 3y ago
    There's no guarantee anyone would bring the car to the manufacturer for service though.
    - grepfru_it 3y ago
      You are not thinking outside the box enough. The manufacturer has a specific system requirement for certain tasks such as ecu reprogramming and key replacement. You must use the manufacturer furnished tool to do such an operation. This tool will pull all data including gps entertainment etc which includes your driving style, locations, etc.
    - plagiarist 3y ago
      Amazon Basics SD micros are $20 for 2x 64 GB at retail. For $10 I'm sure that's a chance they're willing to take. They'll just raise the MSRP by $100 to compensate.
TheAdamist 3y ago
Time to pop it in a data usage heavy device for free data. The bbc or someone has had at least one article about a bird tracking device that operated via cellular and a sim that expected 5k or less data a month suddenly started charging gigs a month in their home continent just after the last natural looking flight of the bird ended, the ornithological society involved had a few shock bills.
- janosdebugs 3y ago
  From what I know, this wouldn't work. I worked for a telco and the way they explained it to me is that SIMs for these purposes are not the same as consumer SIMs. They end up on a different network using a different APN and they typically go straight to a VPN or other private network for their owner. And no, you can't reconfigure them to the consumer APN (I asked). (This was not in the US btw.)
- bdavbdav 3y ago
  Most SIMs for such purposes are sat directly on an L2TP connection or similar. They’re often not public internet. As a consumer you can buy similar - I know my ISP (A&A) will sell you (quite reasonably) a sim that will drop straight onto an L2TP connection of your choosing.
- doubleg72 3y ago
  Nope.. Machine to machine plans most likely

Most cars have an integrated SIM. You can either pull the fuse, and lose a bunch of functionality, or if you're clever, throw an attenuator on the antenna rendering it useless but preserving the functionality of the rest of your car.

plagiarist 3y ago
Do they not store it an just upload it once the car goes in for service? I have a 32 Gb mini SD card the size of a fingernail that was like $10, something like that would store a fuckload of hard braking events.
- hiatus 3y ago
  There's no guarantee anyone would bring the car to the manufacturer for service though.
  - grepfru_it 3y ago
    You are not thinking outside the box enough. The manufacturer has a specific system requirement for certain tasks such as ecu reprogramming and key replacement. You must use the manufacturer furnished tool to do such an operation. This tool will pull all data including gps entertainment etc which includes your driving style, locations, etc.
  - plagiarist 3y ago
    Amazon Basics SD micros are $20 for 2x 64 GB at retail. For $10 I'm sure that's a chance they're willing to take. They'll just raise the MSRP by $100 to compensate.

TheAdamist 3y ago

Time to pop it in a data usage heavy device for free data. The bbc or someone has had at least one article about a bird tracking device that operated via cellular and a sim that expected 5k or less data a month suddenly started charging gigs a month in their home continent just after the last natural looking flight of the bird ended, the ornithological society involved had a few shock bills.

janosdebugs 3y ago
From what I know, this wouldn't work. I worked for a telco and the way they explained it to me is that SIMs for these purposes are not the same as consumer SIMs. They end up on a different network using a different APN and they typically go straight to a VPN or other private network for their owner. And no, you can't reconfigure them to the consumer APN (I asked). (This was not in the US btw.)
bdavbdav 3y ago
Most SIMs for such purposes are sat directly on an L2TP connection or similar. They’re often not public internet. As a consumer you can buy similar - I know my ISP (A&A) will sell you (quite reasonably) a sim that will drop straight onto an L2TP connection of your choosing.
doubleg72 3y ago
Nope.. Machine to machine plans most likely