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>It's not like real Coach bags utilize some magic leather that doesn't degrade just the same as the $200 leather purse you buy from a local artisan. Not sure w
by nemothekid 3y ago
>It's not like real Coach bags utilize some magic leather that doesn't degrade just the same as the $200 leather purse you buy from a local artisan.
Not sure why Coach was chosen for this example - I don't believe they are expensive; last I checked they were in the range of $200-500, which doesn't seem egregious as the actual luxury brands (ex. Hermes, where the entry level bags are $4,000).
That said, I feel there is a real difference in quality at various price points, and focusing on the material ("magic leather") is wrong. When I'm paying a premium I'm usually looking for in the dimensions of construction, and usually that means paying an actual professional who may charge $100/hr, vs 19 year old in Bangladesh. The two might be using the same material but the price difference comes from the person assembling the item.
The problem is you have a ton of companies (even "luxury" ones), that in an attempt to juice their stock price, have also focused on getting costs super low and are now using the same factories as junk brands but just slapping their logo on it. Even products of the same brand can vary wildly in quality depending even on the year it was made.
I have jackets from "luxury" brands that I bought 10 years ago that still look brand new for thousands of dollars (and probably saved money in the long run), but buying a similar item new or even trying to replace it is impossible.
- decafninja 3y agoSome brands like Hermes, Rolex, etc. also require you to establish a “relationship” with them to acquire their most popular items (Birkin or Kelly bags, stainless steel watches). This entails a lengthy purchase history, and some schmoozing of your assigned sales associate doesn’t hurt either. Unless you’re some well known figure, just waltzing into a boutique with a suitcase full of cash won’t get you what you want to buy on your first visit. Other brands are catching on. I hear Porsche (or at least some dealerships) have started gatekeeping 911s this way.
- brianwawok 3y agoAnd what’s funny is a budget model 3 you order online totally smokes the Porsche. It’s really just trying to sell a badge not a product.
- decafninja 3y agoWith all respect, 0-60 times is not the only reason why you buy a Porsche. A Toyota Corolla probably ticks more boxes for the average person than any Porsche if cars are not your thing.
- VHRanger 3y agoTypical American thinking. Your model 3 can't handle a corner. The reason car enthusiasts like Porsches is that they handle particularly well.
- imp0cat 3y agoBut that's not his point. He's right about the badge.
- decafninja 3y agoNope, he’s not. Or at least not entirely. Even their models that share platforms with “lesser” brands in the corporate stable go through a lot to differentiate them. But if you don’t care about cars or enjoy driving, then all of it is a moot point and probably meaningless to you, and you might as well enjoy a Toyota Camry and call it a day.
- c0pium 3y ago…on the straight away of lap one. The top trim model 3 performance best time around the green hell is like 9 minutes. There are factory Porsches that will do it in under 7. This is a very ironic comment to have made in a thread about how cheap things aren’t as good as they seem once you look a bit deeper.
- dlp211 3y agoThis is, and I cannot overstate this, one of the most ridiculous, tech bro statements I've read on here in a while.
- jbm 3y agoNothing gives me more joy than watching car geeks furiously posting when they see things like this. Thank you, I had a long day at work. Daily reminder that your "super cars" are worthless. Merging onto the highway is far more important than "winning in the corners".
- gannonburgett 3y agoMercedes and other manufacturers do this as well. While it's arguably an extreme example, you can't purchase the Mercedes Benz Project One hypercar unless you have a history of purchasing their low-volume, extremely expensive cars (AMG Black Series, etc).
- decafninja 3y agoBut that’s, as you say, an extremely, extremely, rare model isn’t it? A 911, even something like a GTS or Turbo, is peasant-class compared to that.