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"No one" was a figure of speech. Yes there are always some people who want all of these things, but there have been countless polls done in all these states on

by paxys 3y ago

"No one" was a figure of speech. Yes there are always some people who want all of these things, but there have been countless polls done in all these states on topics like abortion and there is always a clear majority that is in favor of more sensible laws. One example is for exceptions for rape, incest and mother's health etc., which upwards of 85%+ of Republicans support. Yet the laws they enact don't reflect this, because these same people will not vote for moderates.

lamontcg 3y ago
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- godelski 3y ago
  Literal, exact, precise interpretations are for machines, not for men. And even with such precision we still often fail to communicate with machines. Qualifying words are an oft overlooked tool in language. Especially when someone is presenting an idea you disagree with. Humans often use analogies, exaggerations, representations, examples, and other linguistic tools to attempt to convey their points. But speech is far form simple. If you interpret words as they are, you will always fail to communicate. Words are an attempt at conveying the thoughts in one's head. Never trust the person that is bold enough to claim that they are impossible to misinterpret, because they are an immutable force and the main character in their own reality.
  - lamontcg 3y ago
    The OP didn't use any qualifying words, I would be happy to take the other side of this argument if they did. You're also lecturing me about a stance that I normally take and agree with. Apply your own logic to me, steelman my position, and figure out what position I'm actually taking.
    - godelski 3y ago
      >>>>>> No one in Texas wants porn bans, abortion bans, IVF bans, restrictive marijuana laws and everything else going on down there, but they will still enthusiastically vote for it to show party allegiance. That is the quote. It would be absolutely unreasonable to believe that 100% of Texans (or literally any demographic) is united on any issue. You are correct that the OP did not use a qualifier, but that is not the only form of miscommunication I mentioned (this one is called "hyperbole", a form of exaggeration, which was explicitly mentioned). So if you're going to complain to me about "lecturing" you (I'm not), you should probably demonstrate a reasonable interpretation. You got downvoted because a lot of people are quite used to this extremely common pattern of speech. It is okay if you are not, but learn from it and move on instead of doubling down.
      - lamontcg 3y ago
        I might be familiar with hyperbole as well and don't need to have it explained to me. You're still failing at your own principle.
melagonster 3y ago
the vote results is 133:1.
paulddraper 3y ago
85%+ of laws passed by Republicans allow for abortion for rape, incest, and mother's life.

by paxys 3y ago

lamontcg 3y ago

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godelski 3y ago
Literal, exact, precise interpretations are for machines, not for men. And even with such precision we still often fail to communicate with machines. Qualifying words are an oft overlooked tool in language. Especially when someone is presenting an idea you disagree with. Humans often use analogies, exaggerations, representations, examples, and other linguistic tools to attempt to convey their points. But speech is far form simple. If you interpret words as they are, you will always fail to communicate. Words are an attempt at conveying the thoughts in one's head. Never trust the person that is bold enough to claim that they are impossible to misinterpret, because they are an immutable force and the main character in their own reality.
- lamontcg 3y ago
  The OP didn't use any qualifying words, I would be happy to take the other side of this argument if they did. You're also lecturing me about a stance that I normally take and agree with. Apply your own logic to me, steelman my position, and figure out what position I'm actually taking.
  - godelski 3y ago
    >>>>>> No one in Texas wants porn bans, abortion bans, IVF bans, restrictive marijuana laws and everything else going on down there, but they will still enthusiastically vote for it to show party allegiance. That is the quote. It would be absolutely unreasonable to believe that 100% of Texans (or literally any demographic) is united on any issue. You are correct that the OP did not use a qualifier, but that is not the only form of miscommunication I mentioned (this one is called "hyperbole", a form of exaggeration, which was explicitly mentioned). So if you're going to complain to me about "lecturing" you (I'm not), you should probably demonstrate a reasonable interpretation. You got downvoted because a lot of people are quite used to this extremely common pattern of speech. It is okay if you are not, but learn from it and move on instead of doubling down.
    - lamontcg 3y ago
      I might be familiar with hyperbole as well and don't need to have it explained to me. You're still failing at your own principle.

melagonster 3y ago

the vote results is 133:1.

paulddraper 3y ago

85%+ of laws passed by Republicans allow for abortion for rape, incest, and mother's life.