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I am so tired of this guy. He's a Class-A a*hole. He is fighting everyone's 30% fees. Perhaps, just perhaps, they are worth it because if they weren't the it

by MR4D 3y ago

I am so tired of this guy. He's a Class-A a*hole. He is fighting everyone's 30% fees. Perhaps, just perhaps, they are worth it because if they weren't the it would be easy to create a platform. Proof of his absolute stupidity is here [0], where he says (referring to MS, Nintendo, and Sony), "* Well, they subsidize hardware, so they sell their hardware, as far as I can tell from widely published reports, at a loss, and so the fee needs to cover that*". WTF???? So if you lose money, the he isn't going to sue you, but if you make money, then he will sue you. At this point, I hope someone destroys his damn company due to a slip & fall lawsuit. God, I can't take his shit anymore!!! [0] - https://www.gamesindustry.biz/epic-explains-why-it-hasnt-sued-nintendo-sony-and-microsoft-over-30-fee-epic-vs-google https://www.gamesindustry.biz/epic-explains-why-it-hasnt-sue... /rant

Wowfunhappy 3y ago
> Well, they subsidize hardware, so they sell their hardware, as far as I can tell from widely published reports, at a loss, and so the fee needs to cover that That seems totally reasonable to me.
- MR4D 3y ago
  Epic doesn't build any hardware, and charges Devs 12% to build an add-on for Fortnite. [0] Why 12% ? That's not cheap for what is essentially basic ACH billing service. If I go to get a service like that, I have several vendors to choose from and only pay about 1/4 that price. [1] Maybe someone should sue Epic for unreasonable pricing. [0] - https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/9/23630864/epic-games-store-self-publish-tools-ratings https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/9/23630864/epic-games-store-... [1] - https://quickbooks.intuit.com/payments/payment-rates/ https://quickbooks.intuit.com/payments/payment-rates/
  - Onawa 3y ago
    An ACH billing service.... That is built on top a game platform. 12% doesn't seem bad, compared to Roblox. Pretty sure last I saw, developers were only getting 30% of the sales from Roblox add-ons.
superbman 3y ago
> He is fighting everyone's 30% fees. > > Perhaps, just perhaps, they are worth it because if they weren't the it would be easy to create a platform. Perhaps. And perhaps its monopolistic behaviour. If so, we all stand to win by challenging it. > WTF???? So if you lose money, the he isn't going to sue you, but if you make money, then he will sue you. Sounds like Sweeney is suggesting the hardware itself is sold at a loss, not that console manufacturers make no money.
riku_iki 3y ago
> Perhaps, just perhaps, they are worth it because if they weren't the it would be easy to create a platform. It is maybe easy to create a platform, but much harder to beat network effect.

by MR4D 3y ago

Wowfunhappy 3y ago

> Well, they subsidize hardware, so they sell their hardware, as far as I can tell from widely published reports, at a loss, and so the fee needs to cover that That seems totally reasonable to me.

MR4D 3y ago
Epic doesn't build any hardware, and charges Devs 12% to build an add-on for Fortnite. [0] Why 12% ? That's not cheap for what is essentially basic ACH billing service. If I go to get a service like that, I have several vendors to choose from and only pay about 1/4 that price. [1] Maybe someone should sue Epic for unreasonable pricing. [0] - https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/9/23630864/epic-games-store-self-publish-tools-ratings https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/9/23630864/epic-games-store-... [1] - https://quickbooks.intuit.com/payments/payment-rates/ https://quickbooks.intuit.com/payments/payment-rates/
- Onawa 3y ago
  An ACH billing service.... That is built on top a game platform. 12% doesn't seem bad, compared to Roblox. Pretty sure last I saw, developers were only getting 30% of the sales from Roblox add-ons.

superbman 3y ago

> He is fighting everyone's 30% fees. > > Perhaps, just perhaps, they are worth it because if they weren't the it would be easy to create a platform. Perhaps. And perhaps its monopolistic behaviour. If so, we all stand to win by challenging it. > WTF???? So if you lose money, the he isn't going to sue you, but if you make money, then he will sue you. Sounds like Sweeney is suggesting the hardware itself is sold at a loss, not that console manufacturers make no money.

riku_iki 3y ago

> Perhaps, just perhaps, they are worth it because if they weren't the it would be easy to create a platform. It is maybe easy to create a platform, but much harder to beat network effect.