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I’m not up to speed on this, is there something I’m missing in the article or is there some other context you could share?
by d1sxeyes 3y ago
I’m not up to speed on this, is there something I’m missing in the article or is there some other context you could share?
- zyang 3y agoEmployees came forward that 37 kept a list of "funny" customer names - some offensive and racist. Instead of fixing the problem Fried and DHH banned employees talking about it. Later it came out DHH was a contributor to the list. https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/27/22406673/basecamp-political-speech-policy-controversy https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/27/22406673/basecamp-politic...
- devtailz 3y agoI really hope "banged" is a typo for "banned"...
- elzbardico 3y ago[flagged]
- AlexandrB 3y agoImagine if they ever found out what service industry workers say about customers behind their backs.
- zyang 3y agoI agree there are many out there using fake outrage for personal gain and ladder climbing. In this case DHH's frat club behavior was publicly called out. Instead of accepting responsibility he called timeout to cover his own behind. 37 lost business and credibility from the fallout. That's hardly harmless.
- theonething 3y ago> Instead of accepting responsibility "He (DHH) called it a systemic failure on the company’s part." “There was some awareness at the time within the company that that list had existed and it wasn’t acted upon. That is squarely on Jason’s and my record.” The list, he said, “in itself is just a gross violation of the trust … It’s just wrong in all sorts of fundamental ways.” How exactly did he not accept responsibility?
- theonething 3y ago> Later it came out DHH was a contributor to the list. I didn't see that in the article in you linked. Are you referring to another source? Could you link it?
- d1sxeyes 3y agoThanks for the summary!
- crooked-v 3y agoProbably a reference to employee complaints about a list of "funny" customer names and the culture surrounding that list, the CEO in response trying to flatly shut down all discussion of the subject (after having previously encouraged internal discussion of other politics), and in response to that tone-deaf treatment more than one-third of the company's employees deciding to quit. https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/3/22418208/basecamp-all-hands-meeting-employee-resignations-buyouts-implosion https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/3/22418208/basecamp-all-hand...
- d1sxeyes 3y agoThanks for the summary!
- jemmyw 3y agoA few years ago there was a controversy where it turned out some staff at Basecamp had been passing around a list of customer names they thought funny. So gutter highschool humour. Apparently the people or person who did that had left some time ago, someone else found said file and made a big stink, leadership apologised, but not in the right way(?), there was some expressed "outrage". Then the leadership, obviously out of frustration, said no more politics allowed at work and offered redundancy to anyone who disagreed. Seems all forgotten now which is good because the whole thing was dumb. Someone thought having the surname Wang was funny. Ok it's childish but they left already so who gives a shit? One side asking that we all be outraged by this behaviour, sorry no. Another side saying employees can't talk about politics, sorry that's stupid. Anyway, that was my remote reading of the story, I'm sure I missed the important nuances. It shouldn't have been a public thing anyway imo.
- d1sxeyes 3y agoThanks for the summary!