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All US tech companies ever, they are out there to doing the right thing until money rolls in then profits take the priority over quality and they go down the sh

All US tech companies ever, they are out there to doing the right thing until money rolls in then profits take the priority over quality and they go down the shitter. 1) Evernote 2) Triplebyte 3) Glassdoor 4) Let's not forget Quora

StressedDev 3y ago
Are you sure it’s just profits? People need money to support themselves. Companies hire people and have to pay them because they can’t work for free. This means companies need revenue. Now, with traditional companies, customers paid for products and services. This revenue allowed companies to pay employees. With the companies you listened, they gave away their product “for free”. That meant they had to get revenue some other way. Usually, this either involved ads, spying (so ads could be better targeted), pay for advanced features (Evernote), or sell services to some third party (Yelp and Glassdoor are two examples of this). The problem with all of these new business models is companies often struggle to get enough revenue to survive. What is no called ‘enshitification” is basically companies searchimng for a way to survive when their users will not directly pay for the service they are offering. Is this good for users? No, but then again the users refuse to pay for the service. My main point here is greed is not the only thing driving this process. In many cases, it is incentives and organizations trying to survive. If we want products which delight us, we are probably going to have to pay for them. If we want the cheapest thing possible, we are going to have to accept that it will get progressively worse as companies try to survive or keep their earning growing. Note that the above earnings growth is probably a short term phenomenon. My guess is that companies who push earnings over quality eventually destroy their product and get a bad product and lower earnings. This process can take years or decades.
- coolThingsFirst 3y ago
  This is just absurd, how much revenue does Facebook need to "survive"? I'd expect from society in 2024, platforms like Facebook, Quora, GlassDoor to not only exist but to work well in an established way. It's just greed, pure and simple. Nothing works, and everything is "shittified". For example, I was really excited about Triplebyte. I thought finally we may have a tool to separate the wheat from the chaff and hoped it would make it's way even to Europe but then it got shittified with dark patterns. The moment something becomes cool for a few months, it's already a cow to be milked endlessly and sold off to the highest bidder who will do the same and once it's gone they'll find someone to throw under the bus and move on to the next thing. And that's not even counting personal information which they consistently misuse or sell. I am terrified to use majority of services online with personal name/surname and recently my very unique(identifies just me) name:surname combo got hijacked and was used in a fake review site. I just don't trust any company when they say "your private notes" are private. Yes, they are, if they earn trillions and become like apple. But the moment money is tighter they change the tune. For example take a site like bumble. The frontend is junior level programming even HS. The backend is a simple DB. It can't cost billions of euros to run that.
- pqs 3y ago
  Recently, Evernote limited the free tier and increased pricing. This means that now the users pay for the product and this is very good. In fact, they added a lot of new features and improved performance.

StressedDev 3y ago

Are you sure it’s just profits? People need money to support themselves. Companies hire people and have to pay them because they can’t work for free. This means companies need revenue. Now, with traditional companies, customers paid for products and services. This revenue allowed companies to pay employees. With the companies you listened, they gave away their product “for free”. That meant they had to get revenue some other way. Usually, this either involved ads, spying (so ads could be better targeted), pay for advanced features (Evernote), or sell services to some third party (Yelp and Glassdoor are two examples of this). The problem with all of these new business models is companies often struggle to get enough revenue to survive. What is no called ‘enshitification” is basically companies searchimng for a way to survive when their users will not directly pay for the service they are offering. Is this good for users? No, but then again the users refuse to pay for the service. My main point here is greed is not the only thing driving this process. In many cases, it is incentives and organizations trying to survive. If we want products which delight us, we are probably going to have to pay for them. If we want the cheapest thing possible, we are going to have to accept that it will get progressively worse as companies try to survive or keep their earning growing. Note that the above earnings growth is probably a short term phenomenon. My guess is that companies who push earnings over quality eventually destroy their product and get a bad product and lower earnings. This process can take years or decades.

coolThingsFirst 3y ago
This is just absurd, how much revenue does Facebook need to "survive"? I'd expect from society in 2024, platforms like Facebook, Quora, GlassDoor to not only exist but to work well in an established way. It's just greed, pure and simple. Nothing works, and everything is "shittified". For example, I was really excited about Triplebyte. I thought finally we may have a tool to separate the wheat from the chaff and hoped it would make it's way even to Europe but then it got shittified with dark patterns. The moment something becomes cool for a few months, it's already a cow to be milked endlessly and sold off to the highest bidder who will do the same and once it's gone they'll find someone to throw under the bus and move on to the next thing. And that's not even counting personal information which they consistently misuse or sell. I am terrified to use majority of services online with personal name/surname and recently my very unique(identifies just me) name:surname combo got hijacked and was used in a fake review site. I just don't trust any company when they say "your private notes" are private. Yes, they are, if they earn trillions and become like apple. But the moment money is tighter they change the tune. For example take a site like bumble. The frontend is junior level programming even HS. The backend is a simple DB. It can't cost billions of euros to run that.
pqs 3y ago
Recently, Evernote limited the free tier and increased pricing. This means that now the users pay for the product and this is very good. In fact, they added a lot of new features and improved performance.