The problem Ive always had with levels, is that it seems much more focused on the "sales" groups - the non tech, but vital to business everything. I've always

The problem Ive always had with levels, is that it seems much more focused on the "sales" groups - the non tech, but vital to business everything. I've always disliked sales. especially when working on projects where a sales is so smarmy, because they get a huge pay - and I, implementing it all - get nothing. This happened all over. but here is a story of why I cant stand sales: I was tech designer for LDAC (lucas presidio campus) So I built out the RFP for network and we were doing selections up at Big Rock Ranch (the only reason this is important is just how beautiful the space is, so it feels really open nice energy, relaxing) We are doing vendor selection presentations (the vendors come show us why their solution is best match to RFP reqs) The vendors were Cisco, Foundry, Force-10 (extreme backed out) Cisco comes in and they're going through their presentation and we are getting through it - I am reviewing and seeing that it was rather weak, more "marketing"-ish reply to the RFP instead of a detailed response on the specs... I am sitting across from the main cisco sales guy. (this is at the time the largest 10G network in the world as this is just as the 10G switches were made) - so at the time, its a big deal - like ~$80 million in core gear) The sales guy is leaning back as if... don't worry Toots. Jimmy's got this sniffs coke" https://i.imgur.com/gPdQiW5.jpg https://i.imgur.com/gPdQiW5.jpg -- So I am going over the RFP with his team, and he interjects: "I just want to assure you that Cisco has a world class media team - and I will personally be sure they go through this in depth and really create the right solution" PIN DROPs (I am the youngest in the room - but its my RFP/design) "Excuse me. This is the RFP review. Youre presenting your solution here today. So are you to tell me, that you have a "world class media team" and they have not informed your response to this RFP? That the entire point of this meeting" i said a few more things that made this guy die inside. This guys balls shot into his throat. Those are the types of people I think of when I think of levels. (this was also the meeting where the CIO of Lucas Arts demanding a date for "when can you provide me power over fiber" ((his logic was the design was for both power and fiber to desktop - and he was trying to flex on showing 'how can we reduce infra wiring costs' -- it was a truly different world back then, mostly))