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> It sucks that Yuzu had to get bullied out of existence, but there's a universe where this went to court, and Nintendo is successful in making emulation illeg

> It sucks that Yuzu had to get bullied out of existence, but there's a universe where this went to court, and Nintendo is successful in making emulation illegal. At least this way, no legal precedent was set. They got taken down because they were greedy (kind of opposite of the emulation scene no?) and distributed roms behind a paywall via their patreon and I believe even providing the new legend of zelda game before it released. Yes, it's an attack on emulation, but sister projects like ryujinx are still up and running.

OatmealDome 3y ago
> distributed roms behind a paywall via their patreon Not true. They were only distributing "early access" builds of the emulator there.
- tombert 3y ago
  Yeah but weren't they making specific patches to accommodate an early leak of Tears of the Kingdom? At that point, they were kind of directly facilitating piracy; no one could argue that they were working with a legitimately obtained ROM. Of course, I don't know the details, I've never actually gotten Yuzu working in any capacity (since I run macOS) and thus I wasn't part of their Patreon or Discord, so maybe I'm mistaken?
- emodendroket 3y ago
  I see a lot of falsehoods (like "nobody ever sold an emulator before," when Apple showcased commercial PlayStation emulation at a keynote event in 1999) going around and I assume the reason is people don't like the implications of this case and are substituting a more palatable version of events that didn't really happen.
  - tombert 3y ago
    Not only did Apple showcase it, Sony sued Connectix and lost, thus formally making emulators "legal". [1] Similarly though, it looks like they were able to basically shut it down by getting injunctions on it while the case was pending, and eventually buying and discontinuing it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connectix_Virtual_Game_Station https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connectix_Virtual_Game_Station

OatmealDome 3y ago

> distributed roms behind a paywall via their patreon Not true. They were only distributing "early access" builds of the emulator there.

tombert 3y ago
Yeah but weren't they making specific patches to accommodate an early leak of Tears of the Kingdom? At that point, they were kind of directly facilitating piracy; no one could argue that they were working with a legitimately obtained ROM. Of course, I don't know the details, I've never actually gotten Yuzu working in any capacity (since I run macOS) and thus I wasn't part of their Patreon or Discord, so maybe I'm mistaken?
emodendroket 3y ago
I see a lot of falsehoods (like "nobody ever sold an emulator before," when Apple showcased commercial PlayStation emulation at a keynote event in 1999) going around and I assume the reason is people don't like the implications of this case and are substituting a more palatable version of events that didn't really happen.
- tombert 3y ago
  Not only did Apple showcase it, Sony sued Connectix and lost, thus formally making emulators "legal". [1] Similarly though, it looks like they were able to basically shut it down by getting injunctions on it while the case was pending, and eventually buying and discontinuing it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connectix_Virtual_Game_Station https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connectix_Virtual_Game_Station