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This take makes no sense to me. I would bet you any amount of money that, 5 years from now, there will be fun+successful games that use modern AI to make NPCs m

This take makes no sense to me. I would bet you any amount of money that, 5 years from now, there will be fun+successful games that use modern AI to make NPCs more realistic than they are today. And I guarantee you wouldn't take that bet, because you know you would lose money. The questions is not, "Is there a level of realism that is unfun," because duh, of course there is. The question is, "Will new advances in AI allow game developers to bring life to NPCs in a way previously not possible, that's also fun." And duh, of course it will. Pointing out ways that increased realism can be unfun does nothing to prove that there are no ways in which it can be fun. Y'all are betting against the creativity of the entire game development industry. Absolutely wild.

BoorishBears 3y ago
I mean you're making a bad bet: today companies are using modern AI to help with NPCs like voices. I expect AI will be used to scale dialogue options, NPC model assortments, NPC voices, etc. to an amazing degree too at build time. But realtime "Large Transformer Models", to generate how NPCs act is almost a "duh no one will want that", when you can get 99% of the benefits by baking the output of gen AI in the game with none of the drawbacks like losing the shared experience of a game or playing roulette with the quality of someone's experience. AI would let you bake in insanely intricate dialogue trees today
- csallen 3y ago
  > when you can get 99% of the benefits by baking the output of gen AI in the game with none of the drawbacks like losing the shared experience of a game or playing roulette with the quality of someone's experience. You're making tremendous assumptions here: - That the shared experience of game is always more fun than individual experiences. - That only 1% of benefits can come from real-time AI decision-making. - That using AI will mean playing roulette with experience, AND that playing roulette can never be fun. I would bet all the money on earth that game developers will prove you wrong in each of these areas over the course of the next 3-5 years.

BoorishBears 3y ago

I mean you're making a bad bet: today companies are using modern AI to help with NPCs like voices. I expect AI will be used to scale dialogue options, NPC model assortments, NPC voices, etc. to an amazing degree too at build time. But realtime "Large Transformer Models", to generate how NPCs act is almost a "duh no one will want that", when you can get 99% of the benefits by baking the output of gen AI in the game with none of the drawbacks like losing the shared experience of a game or playing roulette with the quality of someone's experience. AI would let you bake in insanely intricate dialogue trees today

csallen 3y ago
> when you can get 99% of the benefits by baking the output of gen AI in the game with none of the drawbacks like losing the shared experience of a game or playing roulette with the quality of someone's experience. You're making tremendous assumptions here: - That the shared experience of game is always more fun than individual experiences. - That only 1% of benefits can come from real-time AI decision-making. - That using AI will mean playing roulette with experience, AND that playing roulette can never be fun. I would bet all the money on earth that game developers will prove you wrong in each of these areas over the course of the next 3-5 years.