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I had always heard, but never corroborated, that the typical 750ml volume of a bottle of wine was chosen because it was an appropriate amount for two people to

I had always heard, but never corroborated, that the typical 750ml volume of a bottle of wine was chosen because it was an appropriate amount for two people to consume at lunch. Is it true? I have no idea! But those guys would have emphatically agreed, I think.

Solvency 3y ago
Whoever told you that was an alcoholic.
- mauvehaus 3y ago
  One random site[0] on the internet says the 750ml[1] size began to be standardized on in the early 18th century. That's something like 250-300 years ago. It could be entirely true that it was considered an appropriate amount of wine for two people to share over lunch at that time. Certainly other norms have changed since then. [0] https://disndis.com/blogs/blog/why-wine-bottles-are-750-ml https://disndis.com/blogs/blog/why-wine-bottles-are-750-ml [1] Give or take a margin of error, decreasing over time, one suspects.
  - kergonath 3y ago
    > It could be entirely true that it was considered an appropriate amount of wine for two people to share over lunch at that time. Alcohol content in wine went up significantly, as well.
its_ethan 3y ago
I think the "appropriate" amount of alcohol to consume before operating construction equipment is actually lower than 750ml... lower by about 750ml...
lm28469 3y ago
What kind of lunch ? A sunday lunch maybe, if you down half a bottle of wine per day during the week you have an alcohol problem. At work it's certainly not appropriate, especially not for construction work
- hollerith 3y ago
  Someone told me that he doubts anyone could get anything built in Germany without beer, but that was decades ago, so maybe it's changed. This someone and I were talking about construction workers.
- brnt 3y ago
  That's the point: the French have your sunday lunch every day.
oconnor663 3y ago
I have no idea, but the alcohol content of different wines varies by quite a bit, and probably also changed over time?
- sacado2 3y ago
  Yes. AFAIK "Table wine" (and table beer in northern regions) was pretty light. Just enough alcohol to kill germs.
sealeck 3y ago
As in the immortal words of Lucille Bluth: "wine only turns into alcohol when you let it sit".
pm3003 3y ago
Here in France it certainly was nothing that would get you labelled an alcoholic 40 years ago. But it was rather an upper limit.
hattmall 3y ago
That makes sense really. It's about 5 glasses. So for two people if it's a 2 hour lunch break even with a very low tolerance at the end of lunch your BAC would be very close to 0.00. The average 150lb male metabolizes 1 glass of wine per 45-60 minutes.

Solvency 3y ago

Whoever told you that was an alcoholic.

mauvehaus 3y ago
One random site[0] on the internet says the 750ml[1] size began to be standardized on in the early 18th century. That's something like 250-300 years ago. It could be entirely true that it was considered an appropriate amount of wine for two people to share over lunch at that time. Certainly other norms have changed since then. [0] https://disndis.com/blogs/blog/why-wine-bottles-are-750-ml https://disndis.com/blogs/blog/why-wine-bottles-are-750-ml [1] Give or take a margin of error, decreasing over time, one suspects.
- kergonath 3y ago
  > It could be entirely true that it was considered an appropriate amount of wine for two people to share over lunch at that time. Alcohol content in wine went up significantly, as well.

its_ethan 3y ago

I think the "appropriate" amount of alcohol to consume before operating construction equipment is actually lower than 750ml... lower by about 750ml...

lm28469 3y ago

What kind of lunch ? A sunday lunch maybe, if you down half a bottle of wine per day during the week you have an alcohol problem. At work it's certainly not appropriate, especially not for construction work

hollerith 3y ago
Someone told me that he doubts anyone could get anything built in Germany without beer, but that was decades ago, so maybe it's changed. This someone and I were talking about construction workers.
brnt 3y ago
That's the point: the French have your sunday lunch every day.

oconnor663 3y ago

I have no idea, but the alcohol content of different wines varies by quite a bit, and probably also changed over time?

sacado2 3y ago
Yes. AFAIK "Table wine" (and table beer in northern regions) was pretty light. Just enough alcohol to kill germs.

sealeck 3y ago

As in the immortal words of Lucille Bluth: "wine only turns into alcohol when you let it sit".

pm3003 3y ago

Here in France it certainly was nothing that would get you labelled an alcoholic 40 years ago. But it was rather an upper limit.

hattmall 3y ago

That makes sense really. It's about 5 glasses. So for two people if it's a 2 hour lunch break even with a very low tolerance at the end of lunch your BAC would be very close to 0.00. The average 150lb male metabolizes 1 glass of wine per 45-60 minutes.