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> This isn’t a disability, sociopathy is a self-propelled toxic character trait, typically resulting from deep childhood trauma that our society rewards structu
by haswell 3y ago
> This isn’t a disability, sociopathy is a self-propelled toxic character trait, typically resulting from deep childhood trauma that our society rewards structurally
I don’t understand the point you’re trying to make here. If this is a result of deep childhood trauma, in what way is it self propelled?
> Mostly we just need to identify and isolate people with ASPD as quickly as possible.
This seems pretty horrific to me. Assuming ASPD exists on a spectrum, and assuming it’s possible to treat it or at least manage it, it seems like the absolute worst option is to isolate people, the realities of which would almost certainly mean grouping people with these traits together.
Furthermore, if indeed trauma is the cause, it seems even more horrific to categorically discard people who have undergone this kind of hardship through no fault of their own.
I’m not saying people who cause harm to others should get a free pass. But what you’re describing seems untenable from a moral/ethical standpoint, to say nothing of the practical implications.
- AndrewKemendo 3y agoI’d make a strong argument that the vast majority of the world’s ills are a result of narcissists being in charge of most of the organizations worldwide You seem to have in mind some poor beaten down person struggling to survive Instead these are the people I’m talking about: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/09/13/tim-gurner-unemployment/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/09/13/tim-gurner-u... Basically every banker, vc, public company CEO, dictatorial district manager, slave driving dispatcher, cold calling scammer etc….
- haswell 3y agoClearly there are people who cause harm. That is not what I'm reacting to. I'm pushing against the ideas that: 1. This is somehow "self-directed" (which again makes no sense in the context of acknowledging childhood trauma) 2. Every manifestation of this trait leads to great harm (leaving no room for a spectrum or treatment/management) 3. We should "identify and isolate" people with this trait What does 3 even entail in your mind? How would this play out practically speaking?
- AndrewKemendo 3y agoIf you’re not actively working on stopping narcissistic behavior - even if it is your instinct - you are actively continuing to choose narcissistic behavior #2 is unequivocally true - it also doesn’t matter if it’s a spectrum - neither negligent manslaughter nor mass murder are acceptable There is no quarter for that behavior