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>The emperor is walking around naked, and virtually all of academia is terrified to acknowledge it (namely step 5). Right there is the solution to 50 years of s

by TMWNN 3y ago

>The emperor is walking around naked, and virtually all of academia is terrified to acknowledge it (namely step 5). Right there is the solution to 50 years of sociological fumbling to avoid saying "Intelligence has a strong genetic component, and we are not all born with equal mental capabilities" Bien-pensants will tell us to the bitter end "Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?" But they are aware of the truth. Example: From a 2018 open letter by an eminent geneticist, "How Genetics Is Changing Our Understanding of 'Race'" <https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/23/opinion/sunday/genetics-race.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/23/opinion/sunday/genetics-r...>: >I am worried that well-meaning people who deny the possibility of substantial biological differences among human populations are digging themselves into an indefensible position, one that will not survive the onslaught of science. I am also worried that whatever discoveries are made — and we truly have no idea yet what they will be — will be cited as “scientific proof” that racist prejudices and agendas have been correct all along, and that those well-meaning people will not understand the science well enough to push back against these claims.

Workaccount2 3y ago
I have no interest in bringing race into this because of the wide genetic difference between groups that common people would label as being the same "race". Genetically there is wide diversity even within relatively small geographical areas.
- dgfitz 3y ago
  Edit: grammar Humans and mice have 85% commonality in their DNA. More to the point, humans have between 99.6 and 99.9 commonality in their genetics. Even more interesting (quoted directly from below) " impossible to draw discrete genetic boundaries around human groups." Your point is not accurate. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_genetics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_genetics > Humans are remarkably genetically similar, sharing approximately 99.6%-99.9% of their genetic code with one another. We nonetheless see wide individual variation in phenotype, which arises from both genetic differences and complex gene-environment interactions. The vast majority of this genetic variation occurs within groups; very little genetic variation differentiates between groups. Crucially, the between-group genetic differences that do exist do not map onto socially recognized categories of race. Furthermore, although human populations show some genetic clustering across geographic space, human genetic variation is "clinal", or continuous. This, in addition to the fact that different traits vary on different clines, makes it impossible to draw discrete genetic boundaries around human groups. Finally, insights from ancient DNA are revealing that no human population is "pure" – all populations represent a long history of migration and mixing.

by TMWNN 3y ago

Workaccount2 3y ago

I have no interest in bringing race into this because of the wide genetic difference between groups that common people would label as being the same "race". Genetically there is wide diversity even within relatively small geographical areas.

dgfitz 3y ago
Edit: grammar Humans and mice have 85% commonality in their DNA. More to the point, humans have between 99.6 and 99.9 commonality in their genetics. Even more interesting (quoted directly from below) " impossible to draw discrete genetic boundaries around human groups." Your point is not accurate. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_genetics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_genetics > Humans are remarkably genetically similar, sharing approximately 99.6%-99.9% of their genetic code with one another. We nonetheless see wide individual variation in phenotype, which arises from both genetic differences and complex gene-environment interactions. The vast majority of this genetic variation occurs within groups; very little genetic variation differentiates between groups. Crucially, the between-group genetic differences that do exist do not map onto socially recognized categories of race. Furthermore, although human populations show some genetic clustering across geographic space, human genetic variation is "clinal", or continuous. This, in addition to the fact that different traits vary on different clines, makes it impossible to draw discrete genetic boundaries around human groups. Finally, insights from ancient DNA are revealing that no human population is "pure" – all populations represent a long history of migration and mixing.