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Thanks, I like the Spaceflight Now commentary the most. Best analysis.

ta1243 3y ago
I find those youtube channels far too grifty for my tastes. Sadly as twitter doesn't seem to work ("Something went wrong. Try reloading.") I have lost quite a lot of the excitement I used to have for spacex.
- bryanlarsen 3y ago
  I've been listening to SFN for about 20 minutes now and haven't heard a single reference to donations. Like parent, they're my preferred feed. If you can get SpaceX's twitter to work, you can use them for audio. If so, EverydayAstronaut will likely have the best video.
- SEJeff 3y ago
  What’s grifty about nasa space flight? They’re a private news org that does incredible coverage of SpaceX and spends funds doing as such. They’re mostly donation driven but they don’t solicit them really. They just thank folks that do on their livestream. Their forums are an absolute goldmine of knowledge if you take a look and it is an incredibly friendly community.
  - ta1243 3y ago
    Whenever I've seen them (not sure which specific ones) they've been either 1) Whining about donations (and shoutouts every few seconds) 2) Whining about the cost of cameras (I remember one of the early exploding and the commentator spent the next 10 minutes going on about his expensive cameras) Yes they are funded by begging, that's not something I'm interested in listening too. I've seen US TV occasionally, I find it unwatchable with the jarring commercials, but I guess if you are used to that then the begging streams. The spacex stream traditionally is a good feed, not too fanboyish, no begging, but it seems it's no longer reliably broadcast
    - cubefox 3y ago
      The official SpaceX hosts often don't mention when something goes wrong or looks bad. For example, they didn't comment on the ongoing tumbling of the ship. Of course they want to present themselves in the best possible light. Other streamers are more independent, they do point out those things.
      - dotnet00 3y ago
        I think the official hosts avoid it because they don't want to have potential speculation be treated as a fact. Mainstream media reporting around these launches is already mostly garbage in quality, having the hosts speculating might make it worse. Like, Starship was tumbling, but until we saw that it didn't manage to maintain the orientation for reentry, it was possible that the tumbling and venting was expected.
  - sneak 3y ago
    Well, first off, they’re not NASA (or the NSF). I always thought it was sketchy that they used the name, it seems to imply that they are official when they are not.
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- tompark 3y ago
  i get the same message, but if you log into twitter then it says the stream will begin at 5:52am PDT
- numpad0 3y ago
  It's SpaceX's problem that they're not where the public expect them to be.

I find those youtube channels far too grifty for my tastes. Sadly as twitter doesn't seem to work ("Something went wrong. Try reloading.") I have lost quite a lot of the excitement I used to have for spacex.

bryanlarsen 3y ago
I've been listening to SFN for about 20 minutes now and haven't heard a single reference to donations. Like parent, they're my preferred feed. If you can get SpaceX's twitter to work, you can use them for audio. If so, EverydayAstronaut will likely have the best video.
SEJeff 3y ago
What’s grifty about nasa space flight? They’re a private news org that does incredible coverage of SpaceX and spends funds doing as such. They’re mostly donation driven but they don’t solicit them really. They just thank folks that do on their livestream. Their forums are an absolute goldmine of knowledge if you take a look and it is an incredibly friendly community.
- ta1243 3y ago
  Whenever I've seen them (not sure which specific ones) they've been either 1) Whining about donations (and shoutouts every few seconds) 2) Whining about the cost of cameras (I remember one of the early exploding and the commentator spent the next 10 minutes going on about his expensive cameras) Yes they are funded by begging, that's not something I'm interested in listening too. I've seen US TV occasionally, I find it unwatchable with the jarring commercials, but I guess if you are used to that then the begging streams. The spacex stream traditionally is a good feed, not too fanboyish, no begging, but it seems it's no longer reliably broadcast
  - cubefox 3y ago
    The official SpaceX hosts often don't mention when something goes wrong or looks bad. For example, they didn't comment on the ongoing tumbling of the ship. Of course they want to present themselves in the best possible light. Other streamers are more independent, they do point out those things.
    - dotnet00 3y ago
      I think the official hosts avoid it because they don't want to have potential speculation be treated as a fact. Mainstream media reporting around these launches is already mostly garbage in quality, having the hosts speculating might make it worse. Like, Starship was tumbling, but until we saw that it didn't manage to maintain the orientation for reentry, it was possible that the tumbling and venting was expected.
- sneak 3y ago
  Well, first off, they’re not NASA (or the NSF). I always thought it was sketchy that they used the name, it seems to imply that they are official when they are not.
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tompark 3y ago
i get the same message, but if you log into twitter then it says the stream will begin at 5:52am PDT
numpad0 3y ago
It's SpaceX's problem that they're not where the public expect them to be.