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Ukraine open sourced it's star government services app
- panaeon 3y agoDiia provides access to digital documents and government services for Ukrainian citizens. The documents in the mobile app are accepted by officials. Also a few government services are available.
- ohcmon 3y agoWow! This is insanely cool!
- sylware 3y agoIs that even legal to have it closed source in a democracy???
- 654wak654 3y agoIs all software developed for every democratic government open source? Weird take to call it illegal. They only got this system up a couple years ago, and they've been dealing with an invasion for the last 2 years.
- sylware 3y agoAll software running on citizen devices should be open source in a democracy. As they should have a noscript/basic (x)html portal, if reasonable, to lower the technical exit cost of any "app platform" and to provide a fair, low technical cost, and nearly equilavent access to any alternative platforms past present and future. "The software industry" is full of scammers (planned obsolescence, etc). It is very hard for govs (democratic) to stay clean here. EU started to regulate Big Tech, it is only the beginning.
- Arnt 3y agoIn the roman law tradition, which Ukraine follows, everything's legal except that which is specifically made illegal. If there's no law against it, then it's legal. Being a democracy has nothing to do with it. If you're an adult, you should learn the basics of law, because the law applies to you anyway.
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- sham1 3y agoYes it is. And a democracy under (quite literal) attack by hostile forces. Ukraine does have its flaws, with the influence of the oligarchs being a major one, but to not consider it a democracy would just be silly.
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- willcipriano 3y ago"Now is not the right time for elections" - Zelenskyy the stalwart defender of Democracy™
- _kbh_ 3y ago> "Now is not the right time for elections" - Zelenskyy the stalwart defender of Democracy™ Its literally part of there constitution that they don't have elections whilst they are at war, and from a practical standpoint how would it even work for territories on the front line or under occupation?.
- reaperman 3y agoWas the UK one of the powers of democracy fighting against dictatorships in WW2? UK paused elections for 5-6 years during an existential war. Ukraine is currently fighting an existential war. It’s very likely that all continental European democracies also would have voluntarily suspended elections, but they were occupied by the German Nazi government and not given a choice. Finland, another democracy, also decided not to have their people vote for a new president in 1940 due to WW2. They also postponed their 1943 parliamentary elections. > Due to the lingering threat of another war and the Karelian refugees' dispersal throughout Finland, regular presidential elections were cancelled, and instead the two hundred and eighty eight 1937 presidential electors were summoned to select a new President.
- esbranson 3y agoCalifornia and all the other US states AFAIK have no standard license whatsoever for their works.
- extraduder_ire 3y agoThe license used seems to be EUPL-1.2 for everything they've released. FSF says it's copyleft comparable to the GPL, but isn't compatible with it. (although, can be re-licensed by following a two-step process)
- esbranson 3y agoGitHub repo uses EUPL, but the website has another license…
- worksonmine 3y agoThe navigation doesn't work in Firefox. > Uncaught TypeError: document.querySelector(...).computedStyleMap is not a function This happens because they hijack the built-in hash navigation, essentially breaking functionality that would've worked if they just left it alone. If you really need to use shiny features unsupported in all browsers use polyfills, we learned this decades ago. Screwing up something so simple doesn't give me much confidence in the rest of the project.
- Arnt 3y agoOpen source is a gift left by the wayside for people to pick up or not. It's not a customer-vendor relationship. You're free to react as you want, but it's good to keep in mind that if you want the maintainers to care, you should be willing to enter into a customer-vendor relationship.
- worksonmine 3y agoI would agree with you unless this was the official government app for interacting with the government. They have a bigger responsibility than a random library. It is nice that it's open source though so people can audit it.
- Arnt 3y agoAudit, you say. I once put an easter egg into some open source code used by many millions of people. Nobody found it until a colleague talked about it at a conference maybe a decade later. People talk about audits, I at least don't think audits can be relied upon to find much. It's nice when audits happen, don't misunderstand, but I don't assume that opening the source of something means that any badness will be found. That assumption requires several leaps of faith.
- worksonmine 3y agoI'm just giving them the benefit of the doubt, I don't assume anything.