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Depending on how far north (or south) you live, daylight saving is arguably worth the hassle. Where I live, in winter, without daylight saving it would be dark

by fendale 14y ago

Depending on how far north (or south) you live, daylight saving is arguably worth the hassle. Where I live, in winter, without daylight saving it would be dark until 9.30am or after in the mornings, meaning all the kids need to go to school in the dark, which is more dangerous. Then at the peak of summer, it would probably still be daylight until close to midnight. The closer you are to the equator, the less swing there is between the number of hours of daylight between summer and winter. Even between the very north of the UK and the very south there is an appreciable difference.

smackay 14y ago
Being from the very far north of the UK mainland the changes in time were always welcome. We still went to school when it was cold and rainy but at least it wasn't dark (though it was on the return trip). In the summer being able to play outside until 10.30pm was awesome. I wonder what the psychological differences would be if daylight saving was abandoned and whether there might be a real economic impact. I spent quite a bit of time up in the Pacific NW of the USA and a sunny day in February lifted everybodies spirits. I hesitate to say that the work that got done was better but certainly the mood at work was a lot more congenial.
Beanis 14y ago
If you live up north, adjust the local schedule instead of the clocks. If kids are waiting in the dark, move the start time to later in the day. If it is light out at midnight shift your schedule so you go to sleep after 12:00am. If you are living your life based on the position of the sun, the numbers on the clock are going to mean something a little bit different everyday anyway. Time is supposed to have a relatively consistent meaning, and we jump through a lot of hoops to give it an inconsistent meaning. Schedules are much more fluid and easy to change with little external side-effects. People will need to learn to partially decouple their routine from the numbers on the clock, but that seems like a much simpler/cheaper problem to solve than our current time mess.
- phpnode 14y ago
  Can you imagine how much more difficult that would be to program for? Instead of (relatively) easy to parse timezone rules you have some kind of awful, locale specific agreement that that event you scheduled for 9am monday every week would actually occur at 8am half of the year?
  - Beanis 14y ago
    I'm not sure if you are serious, but I don't understand what you think would be involved. If you remove the time inconsistencies from a calendar, any decent calendaring app will solve the scheduling problem you are left with. Scheduling is a data entry problem. It is a problem we have with or without timezones and dst changes.
- robmcm 14y ago
  That would be ideal, if everyone worked on GMT and just started work at different times, rather than the same time in a different timezone. Technically we could all do that now anyway, just start using GMT rather than our local timezone :)
- robmcm 14y ago
  We actually used to do this at school, where in the winter we moved sports to be after lunch and then had afternoon lessions at night. We basically had a summer and winter timetable.

by fendale 14y ago

smackay 14y ago

Being from the very far north of the UK mainland the changes in time were always welcome. We still went to school when it was cold and rainy but at least it wasn't dark (though it was on the return trip). In the summer being able to play outside until 10.30pm was awesome. I wonder what the psychological differences would be if daylight saving was abandoned and whether there might be a real economic impact. I spent quite a bit of time up in the Pacific NW of the USA and a sunny day in February lifted everybodies spirits. I hesitate to say that the work that got done was better but certainly the mood at work was a lot more congenial.

Beanis 14y ago

If you live up north, adjust the local schedule instead of the clocks. If kids are waiting in the dark, move the start time to later in the day. If it is light out at midnight shift your schedule so you go to sleep after 12:00am. If you are living your life based on the position of the sun, the numbers on the clock are going to mean something a little bit different everyday anyway. Time is supposed to have a relatively consistent meaning, and we jump through a lot of hoops to give it an inconsistent meaning. Schedules are much more fluid and easy to change with little external side-effects. People will need to learn to partially decouple their routine from the numbers on the clock, but that seems like a much simpler/cheaper problem to solve than our current time mess.

phpnode 14y ago
Can you imagine how much more difficult that would be to program for? Instead of (relatively) easy to parse timezone rules you have some kind of awful, locale specific agreement that that event you scheduled for 9am monday every week would actually occur at 8am half of the year?
- Beanis 14y ago
  I'm not sure if you are serious, but I don't understand what you think would be involved. If you remove the time inconsistencies from a calendar, any decent calendaring app will solve the scheduling problem you are left with. Scheduling is a data entry problem. It is a problem we have with or without timezones and dst changes.
robmcm 14y ago
That would be ideal, if everyone worked on GMT and just started work at different times, rather than the same time in a different timezone. Technically we could all do that now anyway, just start using GMT rather than our local timezone :)
robmcm 14y ago
We actually used to do this at school, where in the winter we moved sports to be after lunch and then had afternoon lessions at night. We basically had a summer and winter timetable.