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The IRC link doesn't go anywhere except back to the homepage. Is the IRC channel hosted on libera/oftc/efnet?

eyberg 3y ago
We need to remove that. We did have a channel on freenode a while back but got rid of it. Outside of gh discussions there is also https://forums.nanovms.com/ https://forums.nanovms.com/. We made a decision a while ago to follow Zig's lead here and have no 'official' community space (https://github.com/ziglang/zig?tab=readme-ov-file#community https://github.com/ziglang/zig?tab=readme-ov-file#community) instead letting people form their own spaces.
- exceptione 3y ago
  An 'official' community space is a blessing, I think Zig took the wrong direction here, I can understand why project maintainers don't want to carry the burden of gardening a space, but Zig is not doing itself any favors here. Instead, I would suggest maintainers to open a "vacancy" for an accessible and privacy friendly space, and if it fits the criteria, bless it. Or just start one yourself and hand it over. Why? From a quick glance, most of the Zig communities are on discord. That means all folks that value privacy would not participate. And even if you are ok to lose out on that demographic, you still have a highly fractured information space. Although in the case of discord, "information space" is too generous. "Information black hole" is a more apt term, because none of it gets indexed by search engines. One cannot do without a bit of leadership to make a project successful. ... and props for your project!
  - antihero 3y ago
    > all folks that value privacy would not participate How much privacy do you need to talk about a programming language? Official Discords are great!
    - anthk 3y ago
      No, they aren't. They are silos, with no proper libre/open source clients with propietary protocols. Also, the Discord company can send any of your data to /dev/null anytime.
      - antihero 3y ago
        Chat is fairly transient by nature, anything that is not should be put into reusable documentation anyway.
  - otoburb 3y ago
    Zig also has an IRC channel on libera (#zig) that is moderated by Andrew Kelley.[1] [1] https://github.com/ziglang/zig/wiki/Community https://github.com/ziglang/zig/wiki/Community
- mdw 3y ago
  Am I the only one that got excited to see an IRC link?

We need to remove that. We did have a channel on freenode a while back but got rid of it. Outside of gh discussions there is also https://forums.nanovms.com/ https://forums.nanovms.com/. We made a decision a while ago to follow Zig's lead here and have no 'official' community space (https://github.com/ziglang/zig?tab=readme-ov-file#community https://github.com/ziglang/zig?tab=readme-ov-file#community) instead letting people form their own spaces.

exceptione 3y ago
An 'official' community space is a blessing, I think Zig took the wrong direction here, I can understand why project maintainers don't want to carry the burden of gardening a space, but Zig is not doing itself any favors here. Instead, I would suggest maintainers to open a "vacancy" for an accessible and privacy friendly space, and if it fits the criteria, bless it. Or just start one yourself and hand it over. Why? From a quick glance, most of the Zig communities are on discord. That means all folks that value privacy would not participate. And even if you are ok to lose out on that demographic, you still have a highly fractured information space. Although in the case of discord, "information space" is too generous. "Information black hole" is a more apt term, because none of it gets indexed by search engines. One cannot do without a bit of leadership to make a project successful. ... and props for your project!
- antihero 3y ago
  > all folks that value privacy would not participate How much privacy do you need to talk about a programming language? Official Discords are great!
  - anthk 3y ago
    No, they aren't. They are silos, with no proper libre/open source clients with propietary protocols. Also, the Discord company can send any of your data to /dev/null anytime.
    - antihero 3y ago
      Chat is fairly transient by nature, anything that is not should be put into reusable documentation anyway.
- otoburb 3y ago
  Zig also has an IRC channel on libera (#zig) that is moderated by Andrew Kelley.[1] [1] https://github.com/ziglang/zig/wiki/Community https://github.com/ziglang/zig/wiki/Community
mdw 3y ago
Am I the only one that got excited to see an IRC link?