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What "bullshit"? Giving you a better and more privacy-preserving system than is currently available via any other means? I truly can't understand the level of e

What "bullshit"? Giving you a better and more privacy-preserving system than is currently available via any other means? I truly can't understand the level of entitlement and off-kilter worldview that leads to a statement like this! Some people just can't be pleased.

mixmastamyk 3y ago
> better and more privacy-preserving False and false. No wonder you can't understand? I will never participate in facial recognition to file my taxes. Never. I'd rather go to jail. I've filed online in a foreign country and it was a breeze. California as well... breezy enough. Neither required privacy invasion by a malicious third-party. It's time to ask yourself, what exactly are you rooting for here? Your creepy insults come off as very self-serving.
- sanderjd 3y ago
  To answer your last question: I'm rooting for launching a pilot of a public system that is better than the for-profit alternatives used by the large majority of people. What I want long term is for filing taxes to no longer be a difficult and error-prone process that everyone dreads doing each year. In order to achieve that, I believe it is necessary for it to stop being such a cash cow, with its profits used on tons of advertising to make people believe it's normal that it's so hard to do this and lobbying to maintain (or worsen) that status quo. I'd ask you to consider how the companies with the dominant products in this space afford the "file for free" products that most people use. Perhaps it is altruism? Or maybe it's the normal way that companies offer free products that collect a lot of personal information, by profiting off that data. I'm incredibly sympathetic to people here who don't want to personally use this until it is no longer using ID.me (I may well make the same choice if this were available at all in my state this year), but I'm incredibly unsympathetic to criticizing this pilot program for not waiting until this problem (which the vast majority of people don't care about) to be solved.
  - mixmastamyk 3y ago
    Preaching to the choir here, in your first two paragraphs. It is available in my state but does not handle some detail (this year) I need. But still I won't touch it with a ten foot pole with F.R. etc, and not going to be chastised for saying so. It's not like complaining here on HN is going to influence even one percent of the non-technical public anyway. And I learn things from others griping. :-D

mixmastamyk 3y ago

> better and more privacy-preserving False and false. No wonder you can't understand? I will never participate in facial recognition to file my taxes. Never. I'd rather go to jail. I've filed online in a foreign country and it was a breeze. California as well... breezy enough. Neither required privacy invasion by a malicious third-party. It's time to ask yourself, what exactly are you rooting for here? Your creepy insults come off as very self-serving.

sanderjd 3y ago
To answer your last question: I'm rooting for launching a pilot of a public system that is better than the for-profit alternatives used by the large majority of people. What I want long term is for filing taxes to no longer be a difficult and error-prone process that everyone dreads doing each year. In order to achieve that, I believe it is necessary for it to stop being such a cash cow, with its profits used on tons of advertising to make people believe it's normal that it's so hard to do this and lobbying to maintain (or worsen) that status quo. I'd ask you to consider how the companies with the dominant products in this space afford the "file for free" products that most people use. Perhaps it is altruism? Or maybe it's the normal way that companies offer free products that collect a lot of personal information, by profiting off that data. I'm incredibly sympathetic to people here who don't want to personally use this until it is no longer using ID.me (I may well make the same choice if this were available at all in my state this year), but I'm incredibly unsympathetic to criticizing this pilot program for not waiting until this problem (which the vast majority of people don't care about) to be solved.
- mixmastamyk 3y ago
  Preaching to the choir here, in your first two paragraphs. It is available in my state but does not handle some detail (this year) I need. But still I won't touch it with a ten foot pole with F.R. etc, and not going to be chastised for saying so. It's not like complaining here on HN is going to influence even one percent of the non-technical public anyway. And I learn things from others griping. :-D