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If the botting is profitable then it is trivial to build an interface for a fake controller and screen grabber to do the work.

FrustratedMonky 3y ago
That is correct. I think what people are missing, is that by the time you build a controller interface, and a screen grabber, and have an AI that can interpret the screen grab, understand and play the game, that this is super incredible, and really the humans are probably already being herded into Soylent Green processing centers to feed the remaining humans that are kept around for maintenance tasks.
- jedberg 3y ago
  I think you're underestimating how easy it is to cut the cord on an Xbox controller and hijack the signals and just plug the HDMI cable into a capture card. And this post is showing you an AI that can look at the screen grab and play the game.
  - FrustratedMonky 3y ago
    LOL. Yeah man. Almost there. Here to offer praise to the AI overloads. Hope they read my comments later and know I was a true believer and should be included in the maintenance crews they allow to live.
mike_hearn 3y ago
The controllers are authenticated on modern consoles and have been for a long time. So by interface you'd have to mean like, a robotic hand. And if that ever becomes a real problem they add a 3D camera to the controller or require it to be positioned below the screen, and use ML to decide if there's a human in front of the machine or not. AI cuts both ways. Integrated hardware devices aren't necessarily easy to just cut into. That's why it's hard to mod consoles to begin with.
- bitvoid 3y ago
  > The controllers are authenticated on modern consoles and have been for a long time. So by interface you'd have to mean like, a robotic hand. If that's true, it must be easily bypassed because keyboard/mouse-to-controller adapters, like the XIM MATRIX, are still around after over a decade and work with the latest consoles (e.g., PS5).
  - mike_hearn 3y ago
    I don't know, the links from the XIM MATRIX page are dead. They say for Xbox and PS4 you need genuine controllers so I don't know what they're doing, it's been a long time since I last looked at console security.

FrustratedMonky 3y ago

That is correct. I think what people are missing, is that by the time you build a controller interface, and a screen grabber, and have an AI that can interpret the screen grab, understand and play the game, that this is super incredible, and really the humans are probably already being herded into Soylent Green processing centers to feed the remaining humans that are kept around for maintenance tasks.

jedberg 3y ago
I think you're underestimating how easy it is to cut the cord on an Xbox controller and hijack the signals and just plug the HDMI cable into a capture card. And this post is showing you an AI that can look at the screen grab and play the game.
- FrustratedMonky 3y ago
  LOL. Yeah man. Almost there. Here to offer praise to the AI overloads. Hope they read my comments later and know I was a true believer and should be included in the maintenance crews they allow to live.

mike_hearn 3y ago

The controllers are authenticated on modern consoles and have been for a long time. So by interface you'd have to mean like, a robotic hand. And if that ever becomes a real problem they add a 3D camera to the controller or require it to be positioned below the screen, and use ML to decide if there's a human in front of the machine or not. AI cuts both ways. Integrated hardware devices aren't necessarily easy to just cut into. That's why it's hard to mod consoles to begin with.

bitvoid 3y ago
> The controllers are authenticated on modern consoles and have been for a long time. So by interface you'd have to mean like, a robotic hand. If that's true, it must be easily bypassed because keyboard/mouse-to-controller adapters, like the XIM MATRIX, are still around after over a decade and work with the latest consoles (e.g., PS5).
- mike_hearn 3y ago
  I don't know, the links from the XIM MATRIX page are dead. They say for Xbox and PS4 you need genuine controllers so I don't know what they're doing, it's been a long time since I last looked at console security.