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Depends on how you define 'the field'- if you mean SV cutting edge unicorn selling ad stuff, then yes. If you include some place like Lockheed Martin or Northru

Depends on how you define 'the field'- if you mean SV cutting edge unicorn selling ad stuff, then yes. If you include some place like Lockheed Martin or Northrup Grumman doing boring non-cutting edge stuff like aerospace or signal analysis, then no.

77pt77 3y ago
Of all the companies you chose those 2? Curiously I was specifically thinking of people that worked in LM. One worked there for decades, didn't want to manage people and they just kicked him to the curb.
torginus 3y ago
>doing boring non-cutting edge stuff like aerospace or signal analysis hehe, how the world has changed
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sterlind 3y ago
so web apps are sexy and cutting edge, while sensor fusion is boring and stale? I'm not a defense contractor, but that take just seems wild. most of SV isn't cutting-edge tech. most SV devs are generalists.
- johnnyanmac 3y ago
  Apparently. Why else were companies scooping up bootcamp grads for 200k+ to make yet another CRUD app? They clearly feel that investment will be worth it. Compensation of course isn't the best factor for determining cutting edge. Defense contractors for instance, can work on some truly novel tech but salaries in government has hard caps. But it is telling of something when the above scenario was true not too long ago.
  - panzagl 3y ago
    Yeah, I dropped my /s. Too many years of watching people do embedded, RF, flight control systems and whatnot for 20 years for half what FAANG was throwing at recent grads. Not that there isn't some truly inspiring engineering happening there, though IIRC correctly the people who first built that stuff weren't exactly spring chickens.
    - torginus 3y ago
      I don't understand the obsession with being young - when the SR-71 Blackbird had its first flight, Kelly Johnson was 54 years old. I'm not old, but not that young anymore, and from what I've seen, there's a spectrum of ability in all age groups. And pay does not exactly line up with 'Value' produced (which itself is a nebulous concept)

77pt77 3y ago

Of all the companies you chose those 2? Curiously I was specifically thinking of people that worked in LM. One worked there for decades, didn't want to manage people and they just kicked him to the curb.

torginus 3y ago

>doing boring non-cutting edge stuff like aerospace or signal analysis hehe, how the world has changed

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sterlind 3y ago

so web apps are sexy and cutting edge, while sensor fusion is boring and stale? I'm not a defense contractor, but that take just seems wild. most of SV isn't cutting-edge tech. most SV devs are generalists.

johnnyanmac 3y ago
Apparently. Why else were companies scooping up bootcamp grads for 200k+ to make yet another CRUD app? They clearly feel that investment will be worth it. Compensation of course isn't the best factor for determining cutting edge. Defense contractors for instance, can work on some truly novel tech but salaries in government has hard caps. But it is telling of something when the above scenario was true not too long ago.
- panzagl 3y ago
  Yeah, I dropped my /s. Too many years of watching people do embedded, RF, flight control systems and whatnot for 20 years for half what FAANG was throwing at recent grads. Not that there isn't some truly inspiring engineering happening there, though IIRC correctly the people who first built that stuff weren't exactly spring chickens.
  - torginus 3y ago
    I don't understand the obsession with being young - when the SR-71 Blackbird had its first flight, Kelly Johnson was 54 years old. I'm not old, but not that young anymore, and from what I've seen, there's a spectrum of ability in all age groups. And pay does not exactly line up with 'Value' produced (which itself is a nebulous concept)