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You end up sitting in traffic for an hour instead of standing on a bus or train for an hour for your commute Why are you acting like driving a vehicle and bein

You end up sitting in traffic for an hour instead of standing on a bus or train for an hour for your commute Why are you acting like driving a vehicle and being a passenger in a vehicle are the same experience? One is clearly more demanding and inhibiting than the other. On a train you can work, read, listen to a podcast, sometimes eat... Lots of things you can't do while in a car. Unless your job is driving. Which, if you commute for work, it kinda is.

rayiner 3y ago
You can do those things if you get a seat, which you generally cannot during commuting hours in any city where public transit is good enough to be popular. I commuted for awhile between Baltimore and DC on Amtrak and apart from being hellaciously unreliable it was great for working. But my commute from the upper west side to east midtown when I lived in NYC was completely different—being crammed into the 1/2/3 and then fighting through the masses to take the S across town.
- NewJazz 3y ago
  You can listen to music or a podcast while standing. I just plugged in upper west side and midtown Manhattan into google maps... It said 18 minutes via transit. Maybe your commute had more complications, last mile and so on.
  - GauntletWizard 3y ago
    You can listen to music or a podcast while driving. You can even hear it over the din of your car engine, which is much less loud than being shoved into a box with a hundred other people.
- sofixa 3y ago
  > You can do those things if you get a seat, which you generally cannot during commuting hours in any city where public transit is good enough to be popular. I see lots of people watching movies/series or reading books (physical or ebooks) while standing up in various Paris transit during rush hour.
  - xyzzyz 3y ago
    You can listen to audiobooks while you drive too.
  - shiroiushi 3y ago
    Same here in Tokyo. No eating though: you're not supposed to eat or drink on trains, for good reason. (Though sometimes people do sometimes)
lotsoweiners 3y ago
> On a train you can work, read, listen to a podcast, sometimes eat I do all of those things in my car while driving too. Maybe not read but I’ve listened to audiobooks. I also sit in Teams meetings, read and respond to emails and IMs on my phone as well when I’m at a stop light. Maybe some people can’t do these things while driving but plenty of us do.
- oblio 3y ago
  And you're a hazard to everyone around you doing most of the things. But it's fine, the poors (pedestrians, cyclists) deserve to die, anyway.
- scoofy 3y ago
  Lol... yea, let's not discuss the 100 deaths a day are caused by automobile collisions. It's not going to help your argument.
- matsemann 3y ago
  > Maybe some people can’t do these things while driving but plenty of us do. It's not that those people are unable. It's that they're not idiots that risks other's lives. You write as if you believe you're a better driver than most, but that's wrong. People doing the things you mention are bad and dangerous drivers.
- NewJazz 3y ago
  How many emails are you sending at stop lights? When I communicated I'd be lucky to queue some music at a stop light.

rayiner 3y ago

You can do those things if you get a seat, which you generally cannot during commuting hours in any city where public transit is good enough to be popular. I commuted for awhile between Baltimore and DC on Amtrak and apart from being hellaciously unreliable it was great for working. But my commute from the upper west side to east midtown when I lived in NYC was completely different—being crammed into the 1/2/3 and then fighting through the masses to take the S across town.

NewJazz 3y ago
You can listen to music or a podcast while standing. I just plugged in upper west side and midtown Manhattan into google maps... It said 18 minutes via transit. Maybe your commute had more complications, last mile and so on.
- GauntletWizard 3y ago
  You can listen to music or a podcast while driving. You can even hear it over the din of your car engine, which is much less loud than being shoved into a box with a hundred other people.
sofixa 3y ago
> You can do those things if you get a seat, which you generally cannot during commuting hours in any city where public transit is good enough to be popular. I see lots of people watching movies/series or reading books (physical or ebooks) while standing up in various Paris transit during rush hour.
- xyzzyz 3y ago
  You can listen to audiobooks while you drive too.
- shiroiushi 3y ago
  Same here in Tokyo. No eating though: you're not supposed to eat or drink on trains, for good reason. (Though sometimes people do sometimes)

lotsoweiners 3y ago

> On a train you can work, read, listen to a podcast, sometimes eat I do all of those things in my car while driving too. Maybe not read but I’ve listened to audiobooks. I also sit in Teams meetings, read and respond to emails and IMs on my phone as well when I’m at a stop light. Maybe some people can’t do these things while driving but plenty of us do.

oblio 3y ago
And you're a hazard to everyone around you doing most of the things. But it's fine, the poors (pedestrians, cyclists) deserve to die, anyway.
scoofy 3y ago
Lol... yea, let's not discuss the 100 deaths a day are caused by automobile collisions. It's not going to help your argument.
matsemann 3y ago
> Maybe some people can’t do these things while driving but plenty of us do. It's not that those people are unable. It's that they're not idiots that risks other's lives. You write as if you believe you're a better driver than most, but that's wrong. People doing the things you mention are bad and dangerous drivers.
NewJazz 3y ago
How many emails are you sending at stop lights? When I communicated I'd be lucky to queue some music at a stop light.