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Potential Applications Include: Bagging, grinding, sanding, sawing, sweeping, woodworking and other dusty applications. source: https://multimedia.3m.com/mws/me

Potential Applications Include: Bagging, grinding, sanding, sawing, sweeping, woodworking and other dusty applications. source: https://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/813534O/3m-aura-particulate-respirator-9210-and-9211-n95.pdf https://multimedia.3m.com/mws/media/813534O/3m-aura-particul... No words about viruses. Also, I recommend you to make IgG test for covid antibodies. Most likely you already have some.

ceejayoz 3y ago
How are you managing to read "Potential Applications Include" as "The following is an exhaustive list of all possible applications"?
- TylerE 3y ago
  They would never list healthcare on the general purpose version anyway, since there is a separate specific certification for that. The only difference is better fluid protection, which is irrelevant to the given threat model. They do indeed sell that. https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/d/v101143973/ https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/d/v101143973/ And whatta ya know... "This healthcare N95 particulate respirator and surgical mask has comfortable inner materials and helps provide respiratory protection against certain airborne biological particles. The individually packaged, flat-fold design allows for convenient storage prior to use. Fluid-resistant surgical masks help reduce your exposure to blood and body fluids. Cleared for sale by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA)." Notice it's still "just" an N95.
logifail 3y ago
> I recommend you to make IgG test for covid antibodies. Most likely you already have some I've had Covid at least twice since this nightmare started, most recently in November 2023. After both a chest x-ray and a CT scan in hospital eventually a Covid PCR test[0] came back positive and at that point the mood lightened and the doctors told me that a positive Covid test was "the good news" and to go home and rest. I appreciate Covid is still a threat to some elderly and/or sick people. To the majority of us, it isn't ... and wasn't ... ever [1][2] [0] Unwitting comedy moment from the (otherwise friendly and apparently competent) student doctor. Took my history very thoroughly, felt my glands, examined ears and looked down throat. All without her wearing any kind of mask. Then late on she decided to take a Covid swab, so left the small room that we'd been in together for 10+ minutes to retrieve swab and FFP mask, which she donned to swab my nostrils. Am afraid I giggled when I saw her go get the mask, had to tell a lie to avoid exposing the utter nonsense of fetching one at that stage :) [1] https://twitter.com/d_spiegel/status/1241297511287046144?lang=en https://twitter.com/d_spiegel/status/1241297511287046144?lan... [2] https://twitter.com/d_spiegel/status/1271696043739172864 https://twitter.com/d_spiegel/status/1271696043739172864
- stevenAthompson 3y ago
  Did you just cite twitter as if it were a reliable source for medical information? *EDIT* Did you just cite a twitter post that links to some dudes blog as if it were a reliable source of medical information? * EDIT to the EDIT * Did you notice that this dudes blog is PAID, and requires a subscription to access?
  - throwaway2037 3y ago
    +9000 for so many great edits. Internet randos win again. I hope someone will soon post about "reducing inflamation" or "natural foods".
    - stevenAthompson 3y ago
      I do not know what this means. Are you ln favor of taking medical advice from Twitter rather than doctors?
      - throwaway2037 3y ago
        No, I am, first, being supportive of your repeated edits to uncover important details. No trolling -- thank you to dig into those references. Second, I was offering a sarcastic remark about other pseudo-medical topics that are frequently debated on this board. All kinds of Internet randos come out from the woodwork when "inflamation" or "natural foods" are discussed here. This place is great to discuss tech, but the discussions around legal, medicine, and economics are pathetic. All kinds of people trying to apply their nerd programmer knowledge to fields about which they know little.
  - logifail 3y ago
    > a twitter post that links to some dudes blog Some dude? Really? "Sir David John Spiegelhalter OBE FRS [..] is a British statistician and a Fellow of Churchill College, Cambridge. From 2007 to 2018 he was Winton Professor of the Public Understanding of Risk in the Statistical Laboratory at the University of Cambridge [..] He is currently Chair of the Winton Centre for Risk and Evidence Communication in the Centre for Mathematical Sciences at Cambridge"[0] He was invited to join SAGE[1] in April 2020 as a "scientific expert"[2] I'm afraid at this point I'm obliged to quote Keynes: "When the facts change, I change my mind - what do you do, sir?" [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Spiegelhalter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Spiegelhalter [1] https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/scientific-advisory-group-for-emergencies https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/scientific-advis... [2] https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5ed1327f86650c76adc36f47/S0396_Twenty-seventh_SAGE_meeting_on_Covid-19.pdf https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5ed1327f86650...

ceejayoz 3y ago

How are you managing to read "Potential Applications Include" as "The following is an exhaustive list of all possible applications"?

TylerE 3y ago
They would never list healthcare on the general purpose version anyway, since there is a separate specific certification for that. The only difference is better fluid protection, which is irrelevant to the given threat model. They do indeed sell that. https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/d/v101143973/ https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/d/v101143973/ And whatta ya know... "This healthcare N95 particulate respirator and surgical mask has comfortable inner materials and helps provide respiratory protection against certain airborne biological particles. The individually packaged, flat-fold design allows for convenient storage prior to use. Fluid-resistant surgical masks help reduce your exposure to blood and body fluids. Cleared for sale by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA)." Notice it's still "just" an N95.

logifail 3y ago

> I recommend you to make IgG test for covid antibodies. Most likely you already have some I've had Covid at least twice since this nightmare started, most recently in November 2023. After both a chest x-ray and a CT scan in hospital eventually a Covid PCR test[0] came back positive and at that point the mood lightened and the doctors told me that a positive Covid test was "the good news" and to go home and rest. I appreciate Covid is still a threat to some elderly and/or sick people. To the majority of us, it isn't ... and wasn't ... ever [1][2] [0] Unwitting comedy moment from the (otherwise friendly and apparently competent) student doctor. Took my history very thoroughly, felt my glands, examined ears and looked down throat. All without her wearing any kind of mask. Then late on she decided to take a Covid swab, so left the small room that we'd been in together for 10+ minutes to retrieve swab and FFP mask, which she donned to swab my nostrils. Am afraid I giggled when I saw her go get the mask, had to tell a lie to avoid exposing the utter nonsense of fetching one at that stage :) [1] https://twitter.com/d_spiegel/status/1241297511287046144?lang=en https://twitter.com/d_spiegel/status/1241297511287046144?lan... [2] https://twitter.com/d_spiegel/status/1271696043739172864 https://twitter.com/d_spiegel/status/1271696043739172864

stevenAthompson 3y ago
Did you just cite twitter as if it were a reliable source for medical information? *EDIT* Did you just cite a twitter post that links to some dudes blog as if it were a reliable source of medical information? * EDIT to the EDIT * Did you notice that this dudes blog is PAID, and requires a subscription to access?
- throwaway2037 3y ago
  +9000 for so many great edits. Internet randos win again. I hope someone will soon post about "reducing inflamation" or "natural foods".
  - stevenAthompson 3y ago
    I do not know what this means. Are you ln favor of taking medical advice from Twitter rather than doctors?
    - throwaway2037 3y ago
      No, I am, first, being supportive of your repeated edits to uncover important details. No trolling -- thank you to dig into those references. Second, I was offering a sarcastic remark about other pseudo-medical topics that are frequently debated on this board. All kinds of Internet randos come out from the woodwork when "inflamation" or "natural foods" are discussed here. This place is great to discuss tech, but the discussions around legal, medicine, and economics are pathetic. All kinds of people trying to apply their nerd programmer knowledge to fields about which they know little.
- logifail 3y ago
  > a twitter post that links to some dudes blog Some dude? Really? "Sir David John Spiegelhalter OBE FRS [..] is a British statistician and a Fellow of Churchill College, Cambridge. From 2007 to 2018 he was Winton Professor of the Public Understanding of Risk in the Statistical Laboratory at the University of Cambridge [..] He is currently Chair of the Winton Centre for Risk and Evidence Communication in the Centre for Mathematical Sciences at Cambridge"[0] He was invited to join SAGE[1] in April 2020 as a "scientific expert"[2] I'm afraid at this point I'm obliged to quote Keynes: "When the facts change, I change my mind - what do you do, sir?" [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Spiegelhalter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Spiegelhalter [1] https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/scientific-advisory-group-for-emergencies https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/scientific-advis... [2] https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5ed1327f86650c76adc36f47/S0396_Twenty-seventh_SAGE_meeting_on_Covid-19.pdf https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5ed1327f86650...