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If someone wants to subject themselves to CCP propaganda, why stop them? If they’re that lacking in critical thinking, then maybe they’re getting what they dese
by lumb63 3y ago
If someone wants to subject themselves to CCP propaganda, why stop them? If they’re that lacking in critical thinking, then maybe they’re getting what they deserve. It’s not like anyone is forcing people to use TikTok.
- groggo 3y agoThe funny thing is there's not really that much propaganda on TikTok, much less pro-CCP. Sure there's the potential, but it's really not even much of a thing IRL.
- ProcNetDev 3y agoGo make some videos about Taiwan, Tiananmen, or Tibet and see what the algo does to you.
- ta_9390 3y agohttps://www.tiktok.com/tag/tiananmensquare https://www.tiktok.com/tag/tiananmensquare
- ProcNetDev 3y agohttps://twitter.com/ncri_io/status/1737948525340615118 https://twitter.com/ncri_io/status/1737948525340615118
- eppp 3y agoIt doesnt have to be pro CCP. All they have to do is slightly boost anti US or anti Israel or anti Ukraine and it is the same thing. Slowly boiling the frog by boosting fringe voices and promoting them as common views.
- theshackleford 3y agoYes and for this reason I support a similar ban in my country of large scale American owned social media. Given they are all guilty of the above claims. What the American owned social networks have done to my countries populace, including its youth, is nothing short of a disaster. It’s induced complete brain rot.
- eppp 3y agoWe should ban it here too but they have too much money for that to happen unfortunately.
- krapp 3y agoPromoting fringe voices is perfectly legitimate, both in terms of politics and free speech. That is literally how all social progress comes about. It's also how we elected our previous President. Like it or not, those are the rules of the game.
- phs318u 3y agoI take issue only with your use of the word 'progress'. 'Change' certainly.
- parthianshotgun 3y agoChange in the firmament of free ideas and free association, surely that's better than the alternative
- eppp 3y agoWe absolutely do not have to allow our geopolitical enemies to do it on our soil to our citizens.
- yencabulator 3y agoIt doesn't even have to be anti-US, all it needs to do is make the factions inside the US fight each other even more. Push two sides that are both "pro-US". That is, after all, also how CIA overthrows governments...
- ta_9390 3y agoThis kind of argument can be used to censor anything deemed controversial.
- r00fus 3y agoLots of people in the US are anti-Israel and anti-Ukraine spending. Many are also against the current US government's actions. Are they "pro-CCP"? Honestly, you think anyone who disagrees with the regime are tankies?
- csa 3y ago> The funny thing is there's not really that much propaganda on TikTok I recommend that you sit down in front of your computer with your beverage of choice and do a deep dive into psyops. To address your comment, there are psyops actors in every significant (and some less significant) social media platform, even our own Hacker News. Whether you want to call their work “propaganda” or something else is mostly semantics — they are operating with an agenda, sometimes/often one that conflicts with the will and/or best interest of our nation (in my case, the US).
- groggo 3y agoFair enough... I consider that all propaganda. Anyone acting with an agenda, especially when they're trying to persuade without openly disclosing their agenda. Even more so, there's plenty of people who post stuff (like the fringe violence or whatever) who aren't necessarily psyops, but then the algo can promote it in a way that influences people. And I know this can all be done gradually and subtly. But you should do a deep dive on tiktok if you aren't already on it! It's almost all fun/bizarre/educational videos. When you have so many people (lawmakers) critiquing it who don't use it regularly, it all just comes across as McCarthyism. (edited to remove a sentence I started and didn't finish)
- zachmu 3y agoIndeed, we are so awash in propaganda it's often difficult to recognize it as such. "What's water?"
- k12sosse 3y agoWe've had a lot of fun watching people make "I'm being gangstalked" videos over the last couple years. YT, not TikTok.
- cynicalsecurity 3y agoBecause I'm not fancying getting what they deserve together with them. Some brainless zoomers might be casually destroying the West and causing our doom, but I don't want to suffer from their stupidity. I would rather limit their fun than my life.
- cutemonster 3y agoBecause they then vote, based on Putin's and Xi's propaganda. It's those two choosing the US president
- butlike 3y agoBecause insurgents