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I am 100% convinced that the demo is partly fabricated, or at least very far from the robot’s capabilities. The inference part was probably true, but the dexter

I am 100% convinced that the demo is partly fabricated, or at least very far from the robot’s capabilities. The inference part was probably true, but the dexterity would put them waaaaay ahead of what robots are capable of, if not programmed finely for a specific task. Industrial robots obviously have that kind of dexterity and precision because they’re specifically programmed for a task. General purpose robots however are nowhere as close to this level of accuracy or fluidity in their movements.

whatever1 3y ago
Probably some sort of imitation learning
fragmede 3y ago
It is. Have you seen ok robot? https://ok-robot.github.io/ https://ok-robot.github.io/
- binoct 3y ago
  OK-Robot is super impressive, but there is a huge difference in the manipulation ability OK-Robot shows with a simple 1-DOF gripper and parallel-axis arm to pick up objects and place them largely on flat surfaces, and the human-analog arms and fingers of Figure 01 picking up a plate in both hands and placing it in the right slot in a drying rack, or dropping the apple into a person's moving hand. It would be absolutely amazing if they really are at that level of manipulation in general, and it would put them vastly beyond what anyone has been able to do date. However robotics demos have a great history of being a mix of slight of hand (partial/full tele-op), heavily cherry picked, or tuned to a extremely specific example. Because it's such a leap being implied by this video, it's reasonable to want significantly more evidence before believing they can do this type of interaction and manipulation in a general way. But even if it is heavily leaning say on imitation learning for this exact scenario, there are tons of potential applications for this level of capability.
  - fragmede 3y ago
    Yes, there are two half’s to this. This is being able to understand the command which OK robot shows is possible, and then there’s the control of motors and actuators as you pointed out. Not needing a team of engineers to laboriously write gcode to manipulate motors is part two and is the other astounding thing here. I haven’t been following this sort of thing, so I have no idea what previous state of the art was, so I can’t judge how much of an advancement it really is.

whatever1 3y ago

Probably some sort of imitation learning

fragmede 3y ago

It is. Have you seen ok robot? https://ok-robot.github.io/ https://ok-robot.github.io/

binoct 3y ago
OK-Robot is super impressive, but there is a huge difference in the manipulation ability OK-Robot shows with a simple 1-DOF gripper and parallel-axis arm to pick up objects and place them largely on flat surfaces, and the human-analog arms and fingers of Figure 01 picking up a plate in both hands and placing it in the right slot in a drying rack, or dropping the apple into a person's moving hand. It would be absolutely amazing if they really are at that level of manipulation in general, and it would put them vastly beyond what anyone has been able to do date. However robotics demos have a great history of being a mix of slight of hand (partial/full tele-op), heavily cherry picked, or tuned to a extremely specific example. Because it's such a leap being implied by this video, it's reasonable to want significantly more evidence before believing they can do this type of interaction and manipulation in a general way. But even if it is heavily leaning say on imitation learning for this exact scenario, there are tons of potential applications for this level of capability.
- fragmede 3y ago
  Yes, there are two half’s to this. This is being able to understand the command which OK robot shows is possible, and then there’s the control of motors and actuators as you pointed out. Not needing a team of engineers to laboriously write gcode to manipulate motors is part two and is the other astounding thing here. I haven’t been following this sort of thing, so I have no idea what previous state of the art was, so I can’t judge how much of an advancement it really is.