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Intuit? You do realize there's been a Fed income tax and an IRS for a lot longer than there's been Intuit.

vundercind 3y ago
What’s your point? The reason it still sucks despite clear, functioning examples of how to do it better isn’t because we had an income tax in the 1930s or whatever. That has nothing to do with decades of our failing to fix it. We very likely would have by now if not for the two reasons I called out. That’s the “intent” behind it sucking—rent seeking, and political expedience.
- chiefalchemist 3y ago
  Nah. What's *your* point? I mentioned taxes as a tool that weaponizes fear and somehow Intuit enters the conversation? Makes no sense. If you're going to change the direction of the sub-thread please use your blinker.
  - vundercind 3y ago
    The situation you described in your post, concluding that it’s intentionally designed to cause fear, isn’t that way to cause fear, it’s that way for the reasons I mentioned. That was my point. It’s entirely relevant to all of the post that I responded to.
    - chiefalchemist 3y ago
      Again, what does Intuit have to do with it? Intuit is late to the game. It's simply another *symptom*. I don't want to talk about symptoms. Let's talk about root problems, otherwise symptoms are a distraction.
      - vundercind 3y ago
        If you want to end the problems you brought up, the two causes I mentioned are what you’ll be working to overcome. “Income tax exists” is not the reason we do it poorly.
        chiefalchemist 3y ago
        Nah. Not really. To solve a problem, you surface and address the root. What you want to do is what politicians do. That is, roll out a symptom. Hack a band aid on it. Smile. Take credit. And then watch the balloon grab pop out somewhere else. Intuit will come and go and the IRS will still be an agent of fear. Let's stop f'ing around already. Please???!! Not just for this issue, but all issues. What you're suggesting we do, we ALWAYS do. And it's just one balloon grab after another. Stop the insanity already.

What’s your point? The reason it still sucks despite clear, functioning examples of how to do it better isn’t because we had an income tax in the 1930s or whatever. That has nothing to do with decades of our failing to fix it. We very likely would have by now if not for the two reasons I called out. That’s the “intent” behind it sucking—rent seeking, and political expedience.

chiefalchemist 3y ago
Nah. What's *your* point? I mentioned taxes as a tool that weaponizes fear and somehow Intuit enters the conversation? Makes no sense. If you're going to change the direction of the sub-thread please use your blinker.
- vundercind 3y ago
  The situation you described in your post, concluding that it’s intentionally designed to cause fear, isn’t that way to cause fear, it’s that way for the reasons I mentioned. That was my point. It’s entirely relevant to all of the post that I responded to.
  - chiefalchemist 3y ago
    Again, what does Intuit have to do with it? Intuit is late to the game. It's simply another *symptom*. I don't want to talk about symptoms. Let's talk about root problems, otherwise symptoms are a distraction.
    - vundercind 3y ago
      If you want to end the problems you brought up, the two causes I mentioned are what you’ll be working to overcome. “Income tax exists” is not the reason we do it poorly.
      - chiefalchemist 3y ago
        Nah. Not really. To solve a problem, you surface and address the root. What you want to do is what politicians do. That is, roll out a symptom. Hack a band aid on it. Smile. Take credit. And then watch the balloon grab pop out somewhere else. Intuit will come and go and the IRS will still be an agent of fear. Let's stop f'ing around already. Please???!! Not just for this issue, but all issues. What you're suggesting we do, we ALWAYS do. And it's just one balloon grab after another. Stop the insanity already.