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Many mass shootings in recent memory were live streamed on Facebook and Instagram. Removing those posts after the fact is a useless gesture. The evil already ha

Many mass shootings in recent memory were live streamed on Facebook and Instagram. Removing those posts after the fact is a useless gesture. The evil already happened. Meta was never punished. Selective enforcement of TOS is political and utter nonsense. If TikTok were guilty of what they are accused of (being a foreign intelligence and propaganda tool), why is Congressional action necessary? Why wouldn't have private industry already quashed it as they did other apps? Those accusations seem a bit more serious than "mean posts with naughty words".

Spivak 3y ago
> Removing those posts after the fact is a useless gesture. The evil already happened. Meta was never punished. I mean this sincerely and in good faith, what else can you do? We don't have the PreCrime division. The accusation isn't that Twitter/Facebook don't ever host illegal or objectionable content but that they have a procedure for addressing and removing it. Parler just said no, we don't have and will never have such a policy. If Tumblr say, despite having a moderation policy just stopped enforcing it they would find themselves staring down the banhammer again. As to your second point the answer is in your own question, I don't think they actually buy that TikTok is either of those things. Hell, the NFL partnered with TikTok and they're basically cheerleaders for the US military.
- wannacboatmovie 3y ago
  For that matter, the most perplexing one for me is President Biden is creating and posting campaign videos on TikTok (not in an official capacity as POTUS but as a candidate). If one truly felt the content of this bill was true, as he has endorsed signing it, why would he even use the app in the first place? Are Zoomer voters that inaccessible otherwise?
  - tw1984 3y ago
    his team is going to give a very politically correct answer, something like - "we are not against tiktok, our presence on tiktok is the best proof. we just against the idea that 160 million American users including my team are being spied on by the Chinese government, we want you all to have a better & safer tiktok not owned by China".
butlike 3y ago
Careful. What's the alternative to taking action post hoc? The only things that come to mind for me are Thought crime and minority report's precognition. You can't preempt what people will live stream. And the banhammer only moves so quickly.

Spivak 3y ago

> Removing those posts after the fact is a useless gesture. The evil already happened. Meta was never punished. I mean this sincerely and in good faith, what else can you do? We don't have the PreCrime division. The accusation isn't that Twitter/Facebook don't ever host illegal or objectionable content but that they have a procedure for addressing and removing it. Parler just said no, we don't have and will never have such a policy. If Tumblr say, despite having a moderation policy just stopped enforcing it they would find themselves staring down the banhammer again. As to your second point the answer is in your own question, I don't think they actually buy that TikTok is either of those things. Hell, the NFL partnered with TikTok and they're basically cheerleaders for the US military.

wannacboatmovie 3y ago
For that matter, the most perplexing one for me is President Biden is creating and posting campaign videos on TikTok (not in an official capacity as POTUS but as a candidate). If one truly felt the content of this bill was true, as he has endorsed signing it, why would he even use the app in the first place? Are Zoomer voters that inaccessible otherwise?
- tw1984 3y ago
  his team is going to give a very politically correct answer, something like - "we are not against tiktok, our presence on tiktok is the best proof. we just against the idea that 160 million American users including my team are being spied on by the Chinese government, we want you all to have a better & safer tiktok not owned by China".

butlike 3y ago

Careful. What's the alternative to taking action post hoc? The only things that come to mind for me are Thought crime and minority report's precognition. You can't preempt what people will live stream. And the banhammer only moves so quickly.