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Yeah it’s sickening how the CCP is able to push their hoof cleaning agenda on americans /s

hellojesus 3y ago
It's not a push. It's a pull. Americans are ejecting to get this information. You have to download software, optionally allow it to send you notifications, the purposefully open and interact with it. It's rational consumption. Simple as. Edit: I now realize what /s means.
- RGamma 3y ago
  It's digital crack. My mind melts when I see what's going on there (American social media too though). Surely letting someone make your populace addicted and/or stupid is problematic? In a way I consider it China's late payback for the opium wars.
  - hellojesus 3y ago
    If you know your mind melts when you see it, then why consume it? Why install it at all? There are plenty of companies that offer digital crack: video games, porn, social media (including this site). But we must give agency to humans. We must acknowledge that they make decisions voluntarily. Regardless of the source, either we should regulate data, including streaming videos of all kinds, or we don't. Singling out a company seems like a political stunt with zero real world impact. And a bad policy at that.
    - RGamma 3y ago
      > If you know your mind melts when you see it, then why consume it? Why install it at all? For the record, I don't and never have. Occasionally something leaks through to me, including epiphenomena like this discussion. HN can be stressful at times too, but it's still somewhat useful and it'll be the final thing of this sort for me, should it ever kick the bucket (hope not, though). > We must acknowledge that they make decisions voluntarily. There's considerable behavioral determinism when exposing a population to addictive substances and propaganda. Modern neuroscience has basically killed the myth of free will. From an adversary's perspective this is awesome. From a profiteering actor's (corporations, drug cartels, influencers, casinos) perspective this is awesome as well. Would you like some sauce with this social capital? > Regardless of the source, either we should regulate data, including streaming videos of all kinds, or we don't. Singling out a company seems like a political stunt with zero real world impact. Sure, for all I care we can pull the plug on all of them and be better off. The systems we had for scientific, journalistic or cultural innovation and dissemination were sufficient and much better behaved (private TV can go as well). No more "professional" streamers (haha). No more perpetual reinserting the same recycled info into the collective goldfish's mind. This would also abolish the "need" for storing the 86263961826th minecraft let's play, freeing up exabytes of storage space in the process. Small online communities, that can actually (federatively?) host and moderate themselves will survive as they have before the maelstrom.
- cscurmudgeon 3y ago
  You just justified legalizing all drugs, even harmful ones. And of course let me guess you want harmful drugs to be legal only in the US.
  - dang 3y ago
    Your account has been using HN primarily for political battle and flamewar. You've also been breaking the site guidelines regularly in other ways. We ban accounts that do this. It's not what HN is for, and destroys what it is for. I don't want to ban you because your account has been around a long time, but we need this to stop. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it. Edit: this has been a problem for a long time: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35777673 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35777673 (May 2023) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23752945 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23752945 (July 2020) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23331270 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23331270 (May 2020) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19350549 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19350549 (March 2019)
    - cscurmudgeon 3y ago
      Is there a way to download all my data?

It's not a push. It's a pull. Americans are ejecting to get this information. You have to download software, optionally allow it to send you notifications, the purposefully open and interact with it. It's rational consumption. Simple as. Edit: I now realize what /s means.

RGamma 3y ago
It's digital crack. My mind melts when I see what's going on there (American social media too though). Surely letting someone make your populace addicted and/or stupid is problematic? In a way I consider it China's late payback for the opium wars.
- hellojesus 3y ago
  If you know your mind melts when you see it, then why consume it? Why install it at all? There are plenty of companies that offer digital crack: video games, porn, social media (including this site). But we must give agency to humans. We must acknowledge that they make decisions voluntarily. Regardless of the source, either we should regulate data, including streaming videos of all kinds, or we don't. Singling out a company seems like a political stunt with zero real world impact. And a bad policy at that.
  - RGamma 3y ago
    > If you know your mind melts when you see it, then why consume it? Why install it at all? For the record, I don't and never have. Occasionally something leaks through to me, including epiphenomena like this discussion. HN can be stressful at times too, but it's still somewhat useful and it'll be the final thing of this sort for me, should it ever kick the bucket (hope not, though). > We must acknowledge that they make decisions voluntarily. There's considerable behavioral determinism when exposing a population to addictive substances and propaganda. Modern neuroscience has basically killed the myth of free will. From an adversary's perspective this is awesome. From a profiteering actor's (corporations, drug cartels, influencers, casinos) perspective this is awesome as well. Would you like some sauce with this social capital? > Regardless of the source, either we should regulate data, including streaming videos of all kinds, or we don't. Singling out a company seems like a political stunt with zero real world impact. Sure, for all I care we can pull the plug on all of them and be better off. The systems we had for scientific, journalistic or cultural innovation and dissemination were sufficient and much better behaved (private TV can go as well). No more "professional" streamers (haha). No more perpetual reinserting the same recycled info into the collective goldfish's mind. This would also abolish the "need" for storing the 86263961826th minecraft let's play, freeing up exabytes of storage space in the process. Small online communities, that can actually (federatively?) host and moderate themselves will survive as they have before the maelstrom.
cscurmudgeon 3y ago
You just justified legalizing all drugs, even harmful ones. And of course let me guess you want harmful drugs to be legal only in the US.
- dang 3y ago
  Your account has been using HN primarily for political battle and flamewar. You've also been breaking the site guidelines regularly in other ways. We ban accounts that do this. It's not what HN is for, and destroys what it is for. I don't want to ban you because your account has been around a long time, but we need this to stop. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it. Edit: this has been a problem for a long time: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35777673 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35777673 (May 2023) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23752945 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23752945 (July 2020) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23331270 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23331270 (May 2020) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19350549 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19350549 (March 2019)
  - cscurmudgeon 3y ago
    Is there a way to download all my data?