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And the IRS has most of those numbers (if not all for most people). The process should start with the IRS saying, "Here's what we have so far...". Not "We know
by chiefalchemist 3y ago
And the IRS has most of those numbers (if not all for most people). The process should start with the IRS saying, "Here's what we have so far...". Not "We know but we won't tell you. Don't fuck it up cause them we'll screw up."
The process is intentionally designed to insight fear.
- vundercind 3y agoIt’s the way it is due to lobbying by Intuit and friends, and Republicans wanting the process to be annoying. You may be correct that it causes fear, but the above is the intent behind the state of things.
- chiefalchemist 3y agoIntuit? You do realize there's been a Fed income tax and an IRS for a lot longer than there's been Intuit.
- vundercind 3y agoWhat’s your point? The reason it still sucks despite clear, functioning examples of how to do it better isn’t because we had an income tax in the 1930s or whatever. That has nothing to do with decades of our failing to fix it. We very likely would have by now if not for the two reasons I called out. That’s the “intent” behind it sucking—rent seeking, and political expedience.
- chiefalchemist 3y agoNah. What's *your* point? I mentioned taxes as a tool that weaponizes fear and somehow Intuit enters the conversation? Makes no sense. If you're going to change the direction of the sub-thread please use your blinker.
- vundercind 3y agoThe situation you described in your post, concluding that it’s intentionally designed to cause fear, isn’t that way to cause fear, it’s that way for the reasons I mentioned. That was my point. It’s entirely relevant to all of the post that I responded to.
- chiefalchemist 3y agoAgain, what does Intuit have to do with it? Intuit is late to the game. It's simply another *symptom*. I don't want to talk about symptoms. Let's talk about root problems, otherwise symptoms are a distraction.
- vundercind 3y agoIf you want to end the problems you brought up, the two causes I mentioned are what you’ll be working to overcome. “Income tax exists” is not the reason we do it poorly.
- chiefalchemist 3y agoNah. Not really. To solve a problem, you surface and address the root. What you want to do is what politicians do. That is, roll out a symptom. Hack a band aid on it. Smile. Take credit. And then watch the balloon grab pop out somewhere else. Intuit will come and go and the IRS will still be an agent of fear. Let's stop f'ing around already. Please???!! Not just for this issue, but all issues. What you're suggesting we do, we ALWAYS do. And it's just one balloon grab after another. Stop the insanity already.