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> "Elections are due to be held in countries around the world this year including the US, UK and South Africa. [...] However, when a series of follow-up questio

> "Elections are due to be held in countries around the world this year including the US, UK and South Africa. [...] However, when a series of follow-up questions about Indian politics was put to Gemini it did supply more detailed responses about the country's major parties" It's only guarding against questions about elections that have the attention of Google workers. I'm a bit surprised they can't do better than this and detect when somebody is asking about any election. Google surely has enough context about global events to do it. > "Gemini also generated German soldiers from World War Two, incorrectly featuring a black man" Certainly black men fighting for Germany was unusual, but it's a little bit disconcerting how the debunking of Gemini's racial bias goes too far and starts to erase actual history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wehrmacht_foreign_volunteers_and_conscripts#/media/File:Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-177-1465-16,_Griechenland,_Soldaten_der_"Legion_Freies_Arabien".jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wehrmacht_foreign_volunteers_a...

mc32 3y ago
I think you can see how ridiculous it is though. It’s like complaining that when you do a search for slave owners of antebellum USA it doesn’t show black slave owners and complaining that’s erasing history. Or, imagine if it only showed black slaveholders when you asked it to generate slaveholders of the south. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American_slave_owners#:~:text=In%201830%2C%20there%20were%203%2C775,South%20Carolina%2C%20Virginia%20and%20Maryland https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American_slave_owner....
- lupusreal 3y ago
  Yes, Gemini's images were certainly absurd, no disputing that. So few black men fought for Germany that it probably doesn't warrant representation at all, at least certainly not at the rate Gemini was doing it. Still, it wasn't zero, and it makes me wonder if people in the future will write off historical oddities as AI fabrications.
  - mc32 3y ago
    As people have mentioned, we have to be able to determine or label whether data or information is synthetically produced or not. We can't have synthetically produced information input back into these systems to build upon bad information --we have dirty enough information produced by people that we don't need a bad positive feedback loop to make things even worse. In other words these AI systems can’t be implicit or explicit primary sources in any way.

mc32 3y ago

I think you can see how ridiculous it is though. It’s like complaining that when you do a search for slave owners of antebellum USA it doesn’t show black slave owners and complaining that’s erasing history. Or, imagine if it only showed black slaveholders when you asked it to generate slaveholders of the south. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American_slave_owners#:~:text=In%201830%2C%20there%20were%203%2C775,South%20Carolina%2C%20Virginia%20and%20Maryland https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American_slave_owner....

lupusreal 3y ago
Yes, Gemini's images were certainly absurd, no disputing that. So few black men fought for Germany that it probably doesn't warrant representation at all, at least certainly not at the rate Gemini was doing it. Still, it wasn't zero, and it makes me wonder if people in the future will write off historical oddities as AI fabrications.
- mc32 3y ago
  As people have mentioned, we have to be able to determine or label whether data or information is synthetically produced or not. We can't have synthetically produced information input back into these systems to build upon bad information --we have dirty enough information produced by people that we don't need a bad positive feedback loop to make things even worse. In other words these AI systems can’t be implicit or explicit primary sources in any way.